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Subject: [Leica] Film Developing
From: ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:23:39 -0500
References: <D113E1CD.33B2C%mark@rabinergroup.com> <429C6F89-9655-4C3F-9BA1-1DE8B715E774@gmail.com> <54EFBA5D.3000100@summaventures.com>

nice

ric


> On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I had been told that BW400CN was unavailable too. In fact I bought a few 
> rolls
> for old time's sake.
> 
> But you are right there are some on Amazon. Be careful though. I saw one at
> roughly the standard price, but the shipping (from Germany) doubled the 
> price -
> and they only have one left.
> 
> Ilford XP2 is certainly a very plausible alternative. For a high contract
> comparison see:
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_120051010.jpg.html>
> 
> and
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP220051010.jpg.html>
> 
> from a time I was comparing them.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 26/02/2015 03:03, Sonny Carter wrote:
>> Kodak BW CN is still available.  You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon.
>> 
>> from my iPad
>> 
>> Sonny Carter
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this is
>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this
>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good.  Its made of  dye 
>>> instead of
>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry and
>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white films
>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films.
>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last
>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep.
>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make
>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not match 
>>> the
>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so
>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good 
>>> print.
>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and some
>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own
>>> eyes.
>>> 
>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can 
>>> just
>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was 
>>> fresh.
>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would 
>>> print
>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can second that.  Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing
>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than
>>>> conventional negatives.  A downside is that they are shorter-lived, but
>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned.  Or, absent scanning,
>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green
>>>> bananas.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's?  Most of them still run C41, and you show 
>>>>> three
>>>>> stores in town.  Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to 
>>>>> UH.   I
>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of
>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough <billclough042541 at 
>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> TEXAS
>>>>>> VICTORIA
>>>>>> 25 February 2015
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi there--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's
>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame and
>>>>>> focus again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer are
>>>>>> processing film.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is processed
>>>>>> professionally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Reply here are offline--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>> 
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