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Subject: [Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 23:20:43 -0800
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Were you the one that bought Leica stock when it was low and benefited when
it shot up during the M9 run?


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at 
btinternet.com>
wrote:

> It seems obvious to me that there will always be a tiny number of people
> for whom a Leica will be the correct choice. At this tiny production volume
> they will be expensive. Assuming increasing production capability will
> increase profitability is a not uncommon mistake.
> I have been pessimistic for the future of Leica ever since venture
> capitalists got involved. They do not take a long term view. They are
> rapists (IMHO).
> Rolls-Royce cars used to have a 2 year wait for a new one, and dealers
> would only accept orders from people who already had one. This kept second
> hand prices sky high (above list), and it made complete sense for a wealthy
> individual to buy a new one every year since, apart form the capital tied
> up, it was cheap motoring. Probably not as good a car as a S-class
> Mercedes, but very much cheaper to own.
> Some bright spark convinced them to increase production to satisfy demand.
> Once the second hand value collapsed, then the astute people who used to
> run one stopped. The company went bust and ended up being sold to BMW who
> continue to make "Rolls-Royces" in small numbers at huge prices.
> This is the first time I have been genuinely concerned for the future of
> Leica.
>
>
> > On 6 Mar, 2015, at 06:58, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Of course it's different each time of course Leica must change. Every
> > company must change and adapt....
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It will be ... different.....
> >>
> >> Leica must change with the user demand.  ( Remember the M8?)
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Richard Man
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:21 PM
> >> To: Leica Users Group
> >> Subject: [Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?
> >>
> >> It's notably that Apple at 2000, was dying. So bad that Steve Job had to
> >> bargained with his nemesis, Bill Gates. Since 1984, many epitaphs have
> been
> >> written for Apple. In 2015, Apple is now the largest company in the
> world
> >> (*cautious people always jump in and say - for now - *).
> >>
> >> Wasn't Leica in trouble in the late 40s until they came out with the
> Leica
> >> M3?
> >>
> >> Wasn't Leica "close to death" in the 70s with the onslaught of the SLR
> >> (without the 'd')?
> >>
> >> Didn't Leica become irrelevant in the mid 2000s because everyone has
> gone
> >> digital?
> >>
> >> Leica may be gone by end of 2015, or may be it will surprise everyone
> >> again.
> >> We shall see...
> >>
> >> --
> >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> //
> >> http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
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> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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> >
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Replies: Reply from frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE) ([Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?)
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Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?)