Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/04/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > Nobodies obsessing over art vs. photography except for you Larry who > started > this embarrassingly provincial thread intended only to be querulous and > contentious as you sit back smugly and think people are getting all excited > about it. They're not. Photographers have shows in galleries have no > problem > considering themselves to be artists this may have been slightly > controversial 50 years ago when all they could get from a print was a > couple > of bucks.. I visit those galleries almost every week there are scores of > openings. There people pay taxes and have parking voucher . Yes it may come > down to money as prints from living photographers go for tens of thousands > of dollars in the art world. > The idea of photography being one of the arts in the art world not exactly > a > hot topic now to put it mildly kind of like am I going to sale my ship off > the edge of the world. Not ones worried about it. Even here its just taken > wide tangents having nothing to do with art in general. when some one calls it art, then it?s art? s > > > On 4/6/15 10:52 AM, "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > >> Art vs. Photography. Photographers should not obsess over whether they are >> artists or craftsmen. With few exceptions people do it for love, not for >> income. If a photographer wants to inflate his/her ego by claiming to be >> an >> artist so be it. Your garbageman probably makes more money practicing his >> profession. >> >> >> There are more than twice as many professional photographers in the >> country as >> there are professional artists but economically speaking it is much >> better to >> be an artist than a photographer. Still, both groups would qualify for >> food >> stamps. The AVERAGE income for professional photographers is a shade over >> $13 >> per hour. That's less than the recently raised salary for workers at >> McDonalds. Even wannabe actors do better. An economist would tell a >> professional photographer to scrap his cameras and serve burgers instead. >> >> >> Here are the relevant passages on the described occupations fro the >> Occupational Outlook Handbook from the Bureau of Labor Statistics: >> >> >> http://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/photographers.htm >> http://www.bls.gov/ooh/arts-and-design/craft-and-fine-artists.htm >> http://www.bls.gov/ooh/entertainment-and-sports/actors.htm >> >> >> Now we can get back to really important things like posting pictures of >> cats, >> babies, flowers, street scenes, and discussing the merits and demerits of >> Leica lenses. >> >> >> Larry Z >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information