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Subject: [Leica] New M(246) Outputs 12 bit Files
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 10:08:46 -0700
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> On May 5, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps that's what's meant by the Jono's statement that the elves in the
> Leica Labs "see" no difference...
> Not a very scientific approach as stated.


in other words, it's not worth the extra money....



(imagine if that's what leica buyers thought)



s



> Thanks Jayanand.
> 
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 12 bit = 2 raised to the power of 12 = 4096 shades of gray
>> 
>> 14 bit = 2 raised to the power of 14 = 16384 shades of gray
>> 
>> Quite a bit of tonal difference technically. Whether the human eye can
>> perceive it in a meaningful way in a print - who knows?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm waiting to see what the explanation is. Going backwards in bit
>> depth
>>>> from the M(240) is perplexing. Perhaps their chip cannot handle 14bit
>>> depth
>>>> of pure gray as opposed to 4 different 14bit depth channels of RGGB
>>> (4x1x4
>>>> vs 4x4 all at once...).
>>>> 
>>>> But I'm no EE, so I'm hoping other experts will jump in to explain what
>>> is
>>>> lost by going back to 12bit files.
>>> 
>>> OR   what is gained by going back to 12 bit files.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> s
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It opened for me with no problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/5/2015 10:58 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This webpage is not available
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See post #46 by Jono Slack:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.getdpi.com/forum/leica/54592-new-monochrom-fine-report.html#post639690
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Curiouser and curiouser...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>>>>>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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