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Subject: [Leica] B/W conversion tutorial
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:45:04 -0700
References: <D198C767.5D178%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <84032E82-C95A-4D77-96E5-7EC22686DD1C@acm.org> <D199633C.5D20A%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <4A676DEE-FCDF-409D-B6C4-B9BA33449D96@acm.org> <BAD48BFB-CBAB-4E06-902D-7D1519EC69D9@gmail.com> <4EE9BB7B-89D6-40DD-89DC-3D50EC1344C4@sfr.fr>

I watched the video, too, and found it interesting, but....   I would say 
more possible and definitely easier in lightroom.  LR has 8 color channels 
you can work with instead of just 6 in PS.  It has the same curves, and 
great basic sliders.  And for local control, you have the brush with or 
without masking, and at least a dozen controls you can apply to the brush. 
And all done nondestuctively.  I am always amazed at how little I now use 
PS, which for many years was my mainstay.  and with version 6, there are two 
more things I do not have to use PS for.  If they would include DOF stacking 
and the content aware brush, I could dump PS totally.

Aram

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From: "Philippe" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:22 AM
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] B/W conversion tutorial

> And what Chris does in his video is now rather more than less possible 
> using LR
>
> Amities
> Ph
>
>
> Le 10 juin 2015 ? 11:33, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> a 
> ?crit :
>
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:29 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn?t thinking of just ?pressing? the B&W button. I was thinking of 
>>> using the various contrast, luminosity, and saturation sliders for 
>>> selected colors, presumably intelligently.
>>
>>
>> yes, you can.
>>
>> there is a wonderful book about all this, called (I will check) From Oz 
>> to Kansas, or such, by Versace?
>>
>>
>> just great
>>
>>
>> steve
>>
>>
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 650-326-8204
>>>
>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:58 PM, Chris Crawford 
>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just converting in lightroom gives flat, lifeless results with no
>>>> microcontrast. That's the look that many film users think of when they
>>>> criticize digital black & white as 'inferior' to film. Digital 
>>>> conversions
>>>> can be as beautiful as film, but it requires work. The plugins do the 
>>>> best
>>>> job of boosting mid tone contrast and microcontrast without blowing out
>>>> shadows and highlights, but it can be done in Photoshop as my tutorial
>>>> shows.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/15, 2:44 AM, "Herbert Kanner" <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is wrong with simple black and white conversion in Lightroom? 
>>>>> I've
>>>>> used it a few times and found it satisfactory. Am I not critical 
>>>>> enough?
>>>>> Herbert Kanner
>>>>> kanner at acm.org
>>>>> 650-326-8204
>>>>>
>>>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Chris Crawford
>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In-camera conversions usually look flat. Best to use Photoshop. The 
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> results come from plugins like Silver Efx, Alienskin Exposure, DxO
>>>>>> Filmpack, and Topaz BW Effects. My favorite is Topaz, and it is also 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> least expensive at about $60.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don?t want to buy a plugin, I have a video tutorial that I 
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> showing how to do it in Photoshop with good results:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/ZdJ5rM_MGlU?list=PLsQTNpmJWGmTFNLzY3g1CgbBQ7-SvAWam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/6/15, 11:46 AM, "Stan Yoder" <s.yoder at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks, Which is the better way to convert color to B/W:  in 
>>>>>>> Photoshop,
>>>>>>> in the printer, or use the B/W provision of the camera (M240) in the
>>>>>>> first place? I don't need the high-end solutions of specialized
>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>> or inks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>> Stan Yoder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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