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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:37:00 -0400

Someone mentioned in the many reviews coming out somthign to the tune of
"have you ever used an mirrorless camera before?" as it might be a big of a
shock we're used to cameras on our faces for decades not being held out in
front of us.
I don't belive they are catching on with serious users and pros like gang
busters. Somewhere I'm sure there must be list of serious pros whose names
ring a bell who use them now but I cant Bing nor Google it anywhere.
I did read a thing "44 percent of all pros have switched to mirrorless" on
sights selling computer flash drives.


On 10/22/15 4:44 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and 
> brick-like.More
> like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which
others seem
> to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag than
the Q which is
> what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
Only when I have
> the R lenses on it.

Tina

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster
> <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:

> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder
> that you seemed to hate?
> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
>
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> You can use all of the Leica M and R
> lenses on it with adapters but they
> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very
> large, bright viewfinder makes it
> easier to manually focus them.
>
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner
> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Leica SL with a small lens on it
> would be near pocketable (jacket
> > exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But
> like the M
> >
> > I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly
> huge lens
> > someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact
> optic
> > on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with
> an
> > overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
> bulkier.
> >
> > I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies
> and we
> > can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans"
> <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting.  He also seems to state
> it has better image quality
> > > than
> > the M.
> > > Here is a quote:
> >
> >
> > > "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a further>
> > > EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy,
> >
> though
> > > in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing audience will see
> this
> > > one
> > as
> > > a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native,
> as are R lenses;
> > > they?re easy to focus and image quality is better than
> from the M
> > > cameras. It
> > would
> > > have been nice to see more
> resolution, but I suspect this might have
> > eaten
> > > uncomfortably into S
> system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
> > > the beginning of the end
> of the M resurgence ? a typical complaint
> > > from M
> > users
> > > I know
> is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
> > focus.
> > >
> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
> > >
> for
> > a
> > > body, the SL isn?t a stretch at all."
> > >
> > > He also goes
> on a bit about the size.   BIG
> > >
> > > Aram Langhans
> > > (Semi) Retired
> Science Teacher
> > > & Unemployed photographer
> > >
> > > ?The Human Genome
> Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
> > himself
> > > would ever
> have dared dream.?   James D. Watson
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
> > > Sent:
> Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> > >
>
> > > It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
> > >
> > >
> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
> > >
> > >
> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
> > >
> > > (from
> > >
> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
> > >
> 01/
> > )
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > > It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this
>
> > > idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
> > > SL size
> compared to a digital M:
> > > https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
> > >
> > > I look
> forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > >
> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> > >> Has anybody posted a photo of
> it compared to the size of the M9 or
> > >> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji
> mirrorless cameras are actually too
> > >> small and too light for me.
> >
> >>
> > >> Tina
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Tina
> Manley
www.tinamanley.com
tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
http://www.alamy.com/
> stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html

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