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Subject: [Leica] [IMG] PESO - Following Lluis
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:42:20 +0200
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Peter,

There is longtime I?ve not used any more XP2 neither BW400CN, I don?t know 
actual rendering, but longtime ago I?ve found that HP5, Tri X ? was fils 
with more character

About Vuescan? I highly recommend it

Lluis



> El 14 juny 2016, a les 20:31, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Thanks Lluis,
> 
> I agree with you about the blocked blacks. Thank you for the Doisneau 
> comment, too.
> 
> I like Ilford a lot and I find XP2 is at times very good. I am 
> experimenting at
> this point. I don't see a great deal of difference between 400ASA XP2 and 
> Kodak
> BW400CN which I used t like a great deal. Neither is TriX or FP4/HP5; but 
> it has
> the advantage that almost anyone can develp it; though not all people 
> develop it
> to equal standards!
> 
> If I continue in this vein I will probably get a Vuescan, too.
> 
> I will post more later.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 14/06/2016 18:54, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> I?m glad to see your excellent B&W pictures. The first one ?A Bar? it 
>> seems to me that the blacks are blocked and there is no difference in the 
>> shadow zones or very small. The second one ?A couple?? is fantastic?, I 
>> really love it! it could be a HCB or Doisneau pic, the B&W values are 
>> perfect too for me. The night views are excellent too, really nice!
>> 
>> I want explain my latest experience, I only shoot what I think is ?true 
>> B&W film? ? say HP5, FP4, Tri X?., my latest experiences have made my 
>> preferences for Ilford, some people has said me that the quality of the 
>> emulsions are any more as they was for Tri X.  One year ago I?ve tried 
>> several Labs but I was always unhappy and finally decided develop again 
>> myself and I have to say, I?m happy. I was tried once the Lab provide me 
>> a scanned film in Tiff, I was absolutely disappointed, the shadows was 
>> completely blocked and now I continue scanning myself. I use Vuescan and 
>> I highly recommend you it because I get DNG files from my scanning and my 
>> process is the same as I do with digital, my files are about 5000 px 
>> larger side and 34 MB at 16 bpi. The only problem I have to solve is the 
>> water quality, I get negatives with many spots, I will develop my next 
>> batch with distilled water on all the process.
>> 
>> We have saw the latest work from Gerry, using again film, I have to say 
>> that for me the film give the best B&W at least for my own preferences, 
>> the Monochrome is very nice, but not the same ?
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing your experiences!
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> El 14 juny 2016, a les 19:24, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> LUGgers,
>>> 
>>> About two weeks ago I had to travel to Brussels for a week. This was 
>>> about the
>>> time that Lluis was having his MM repaired and was using film. So I 
>>> decided to
>>> follow suit and took my M3 and of course film.
>>> 
>>> Workflow:
>>> 
>>> Unlike the great man I don't soup my own, so I sent my rolls of XP2 plus 
>>> and HP5
>>> to Ilford for them to do the messy bit and scan them to High Res TIFs. I 
>>> can't
>>> say that I am impressed with what I got. The negs are OK, but the TIFFs 
>>> came
>>> back as greyscale and not of the greatest quality. In order to use them 
>>> with NEP
>>> I had to convert them to RGB/8. Having made most adjustments with NEPI 
>>> then
>>> finished them off in PSE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What follows are the results. Some I am pleased with, some less so. They 
>>> are all
>>> taken in St. Catherine, which is an old but rather touristy area away 
>>> from the
>>> tourist areas,  full of young people and a few good restaurants and a 
>>> large pool
>>> around which everyone gathers.
>>> 
>>> All are M3 with 5cm Summaron hand held. Most of these are XP2 @ 400ASA 
>>> at speeds
>>> of about 1/60th to 1/15th hand held.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A bar:
>>> 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/PESO2011/BarStCatherine-1.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> A couple having a drink by the pool:
>>> 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/PESO2011/CouplePoolStCatherine-1.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A dark side street nearby:
>>> 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/PESO2011/DarkStreetStCatherine-1.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One of the old churches in the area: Yes I know it looks a bit like it's 
>>> tilting
>>> back, but I really like the lighting here and decided to leave it as it 
>>> is ;-) :
>>> 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/PESO2011/BruusselsChurch-1.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> More to post later.
>>> 
>>> It was a really interesting and valuable lesson in how to take pictures 
>>> simply
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Your comments and constructive criticisms are as always welcome,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for taking the time to look.
>>> 
>>> Peter Dzwig
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> ===========================================================
> Dr Peter Dzwig                                
> 
> 
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