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Subject: [Leica] Draconian "Release"
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:40:24 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1Cpvg4B-PVjMCLPdMn3cer7jaheP2vqikxgF7kQiD8PWg@mail.gmail.com> <BB423E47-08FB-44C8-9B5E-E423197C8B97@frozenlight.eu> <CA+yJO1CvefMVWZiW3aE3mpd=0BgJ4=385cs20NeQBtO=mzj6oA@mail.gmail.com>

Tell them to go fsck themselves then!

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> They are not paying me anything!  The article was supposed to give
> publicity to the fund-raising projects we are doing for the Syrian
> refugees.  They missed the first one, which was my lecture today, but there
> are several more coming up.  Evidently, we did not need their help with
> publicity today because there was a huge, enthusiastic turn-out!  I told
> the newspaper that I could not and would not sign their ridiculous
> release.  Everybody needs to do that and they could publish a newspaper
> with no photographs!!
>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
> > To me the only relevant consideration is how much they are paying you. Is
> > it enough to offset your pain about giving away the rights? If yes, then
> > OK. If not, then tell them to go f**k themselves.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> > Alicante, Spain
> > http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> > http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> <
> > http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> > Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> > http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> > YNWA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 13 Sep 2016, at 22:21, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > LUG -
> > >
> > > I'm sure you've heard more than enough about the Syrian refugee project
> > but
> > > I've run into a problem and would like your opinion.
> > >
> > > The local newspaper The Herald - which has been bought out by
> McClatchy,
> > > along with every other newspaper around - asked for some of my photos
> to
> > > illustrate an article about the project.  I sent them several photos
> two
> > > weeks ago with permission to use them in the newspaper and on their
> > website
> > > with a copyright notice.  I didn't hear anything for two weeks.  Today
> I
> > > got an e-mail saying that they could not use the photos with a
> copyright
> > > notice and if I gave them permission to use them without the copyright
> > > notice, I would also have to sign a release giving the Herald "an
> > > irrevocable, royalty-free license to publish, republish, resell,
> > > distribute, copy and edit the submission an unlimited number of times
> in
> > > any print, electronic or other medium."
> > >
> > > I explained to them that I could never sign a release that gives away
> all
> > > rights to my photos - that it would not be fair to me or the subjects
> of
> > my
> > > photos.  I explained that I never lease photos as royalty-free and that
> > any
> > > royalty-free photo that featured an identifiable person would have to
> > have
> > > a model-release signed by that person.  All of my photos are rights
> > managed
> > > for editorial use only.
> > >
> > > I told them they were welcome to use the photos with a copyright
> notice.
> > > Now I have to explain to the committee why the photos won't be in the
> > > Herald :-(
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tina Manley
> > > www.tinamanley.com
> > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
> > 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> > >
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>
>
> --
> Tina Manley
> www.tinamanley.com
> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>
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In reply to: Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Draconian "Release")
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Draconian "Release")
Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Draconian "Release")