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Subject: [Leica] Windows 10 Annoyance
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:50:44 +0100
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Tina,

I'll look into it some more and see if I can find another reason.

Peter

On 28/09/2016 22:11, Tina Manley wrote:
> Oops.  I misspoke.  My hubs are self-powered.  They each have an individual
> power plug.
> 
> The disks are connected to the computer through self-powered usb strips
> that have 15 ports each.
> 
> I don't have any separate disk manager that I know of.  This  problem of
> the external drives going to sleep is very common and is discussed on all
> of the Windows forums.  Nobody has come up with a solution that works yet.
> 
> I'm going to have to go back to W7, I guess but I'll wait until I have a
> week free to do it!!
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Peter.  My hubs are not self-powered.  I guess that's the
>> problem.  I'll order a self-powered hub and see if that fixes the problem
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tina,
>>>
>>> Can I ask a really silly question, please? Are you sure that it is W10
>>> that
>>> turns off the disks and not some other s/w or h/w? Could it be perhaps a
>>> disk
>>> manager (separate from W10) that you run?
>>>
>>> How are your disks connected to your W10 machine?
>>>
>>> I have a number of (USB) disks connected to W10 and they don't spin down
>>> unless
>>> I specifically turn them off. They all access the W10 box via a set of
>>> hubs. W10
>>> doesn't attempt to control the hubs or the disks. Actually it can't
>>> because the
>>> hubs - and most of the disks - are self-powered and don't draw power via
>>> the
>>> machine. W10 knows that the hubs exist; it can tell me that what devices
>>> are
>>> connected through the hubs, but it has no control over power-up and down.
>>>
>>> My solution would be to ensure that the hubs are self powered and that
>>> the disks
>>> are drawing power from the hubs and not from the W10 box.
>>>
>>> Happy to take this off-line if you want to.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 28/09/2016 16:25, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>> Yes, that was one of the fixes suggested by the Windows forums, but it
>>>> doesn't work.  I've tried setting it to never turn off and all various
>>>> times but nothing works.  Mine is My Custom Plan instead of Balanced and
>>>> right now I have it set to never turn off - still does, though.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:21 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Try going into Control Panel > Power Options
>>>>>
>>>>> You are probably on 'Balanced'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Click on 'Change plan settings"
>>>>>
>>>>> Then "Changed advanced power settings"
>>>>>
>>>>> On my test machine it is set to turn off Hard disk after 20
>>> minutes.......
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>
>>>>> I am past the allowed time to switch back to Windows 7 easily.  I could
>>>>> download it and reinstall it, but that would mean reinstalling all of
>>> my
>>>>> programs.  The thought of that makes me very tired :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:12 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't use Windows 10?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-) john
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Tina Manley
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 5:08 p.m.
>>>>>> To: MUGers at yahoogroups.com; Leica Users Group; paw; seephoto; 
>>>>>> Olympus
>>>>>> Camera Discussion
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Windows 10 Annoyance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PESO:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having a terrible problem with Windows 10.  All of my hard drives
>>>>>> go to sleep after less than 5 minutes if I am not accessing them
>>>>> constantly.
>>>>>> Since I have 12 external drives set up with all of my photos on them,
>>>>>> this is an extreme annoyance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have read all of the supposed fixes proposed on all of the Windows
>>>>>> sites and forums and none of them work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do any of the geniuses here have any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
>>>>>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ===========================================================
>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

-- 

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Dr Peter Dzwig                          



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