Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/10/19

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Subject: [Leica] lightroom
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:22:21 +0200
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For external back up back up I?m on Crash Plan, unlimited storage and I pay 
$60,00 at year. But right now they are changing their policy and hosting 
only businness users only, for private customers they offer migrate to the 
Company Carbonite, at a similar cost.

If you are interested I can provide the complete information

Lluis


> El 19 oct 2017, a les 11:56, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> va escriure:
> 
> No, of course not. It will be one of the three backups I plan on using -
> NAS, External Drives and Cloud. The external drive being an offsite backup,
> either in my son's house, or in the bank locker!
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Nathan <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> 
>> That is a good point, of course. I use Amazon cloud as my backup these
>> days. But I still want a local version to work on. I doubt that I would
>> ever rely 100% on the cloud.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 October 2017 at 09:42 Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Their cloud based processing bit, Lightroom CC (as it is now known) is
>>> clearly aimed at the camera phone user. Why are you even bothered with
>> it?
>>> I am actually evaluating backing up my complete photo files (8-9TB) on
>>> Amazon Glacier or equivalent. If you do not trust your files to reside on
>>> the net safely, it beats me why you keep money in the bank. Big banks are
>>> far less trustworthy than the big tech companies!
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.
>> com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 11,99 ? here, to allow access to my files? Why should I pay for that?
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.adobe.com/fr/creativecloud/photography.
>>>> html?mv=search&s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!216697395257!b!!!!
>>>> lightroom%20adobe&ef_id=WehUswAABRhGHmET:20171019073059:s <
>>>> http://www.adobe.com/fr/creativecloud/photography.
>>>> html?mv=search&s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!216697395257!b!!!!
>>>> lightroom%20adobe&ef_id=WehUswAABRhGHmET:20171019073059:s>
>>>> 
>>>> Amities
>>>> Philippe, who still needs some reassurance ;-)
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 19 oct. 2017 ? 09:27, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> a
>>>> ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you needed Lightroom, why would you not pay? To me, this seems a
>> very
>>>>> strange discussion, involving US$10 a month, in a forum full of Leica
>>>>> owners! Talk about being penny wise and pound foolish!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Frank Filippone <
>> red735i at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not so sure I communicated properly.. if you use CC, and you do NOT
>> pay,
>>>>>> your program is basically useless. It will not work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you use ANY of the "perpetual license versions", you get no
>> updates,
>>>>>> but you can always use it. Using Adobe Camera Raw, a free program,
>> you
>>>> can
>>>>>> always have camera model updates that will allow you to convert from
>>>> RAW to
>>>>>> some other format, and use your V1.0 of LR to process it...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:19
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] lightroom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That?s if you upgrade the camera body Jayanand.I could still run the
>>>>>> original LR 1.0 if I kept using the cameras I had at the
>>>>>> time.AmitiesPhilippe> Le 19 oct. 2017 ? 08:02, Jayanand Govindaraj <
>>>>>> jayanand at gmail.com> a ?crit :> > Adobe's perpetual licenses
>> required
>>>>>> upgrades every two years which cost way> more than what I pay over
>> two
>>>>>> years with the Cloud Subscription.> > Ditto for Microsoft Office.> >
>>>>>> Economically, the CC is the way to go!> > Cheers> Jayanand> > On
>> Thu,
>>>> Oct
>>>>>> 19, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>>
>> wrote:> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The standalone version of LR Will not be supported after Dec
>> 31.
>>>>>> No more>> revisions, enhancements, added cameras, etc after that
>> date.>>
>>>>>> Adobe is making so much money from the subscription service, the>>
>>>>>> additional income from the perpetual versions are no longer worth
>> it. Or
>>>>>> so>> it appears.>> They now own us. You either pay your monthly fee
>> or
>>>> your
>>>>>> images are>> basically as you took them. Your enhancements, crops,
>> etc
>>>> are
>>>>>> no longer of>> any use. You would need to do them over again with
>> some
>>>>>> other SW.>> If you have not figured it out yet, do not trust any
>>>> promises
>>>>>> from Adobe.>> >> Frank Filippone>> Red735i at verizon.net>> >> >>
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In reply to: Message from photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe) ([Leica] lightroom)
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Message from photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe) ([Leica] lightroom)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] lightroom)
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Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] lightroom)