Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/01/15

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The idea being like the Zeiss Contarex Bullseye?s system to make the best with no shortened parameters on glass choices, price,  size or weight.
A take no prisoners make the best policy. I?m ok with it. Specs second to none. I think when you are paying tens of thousands for a lens you don?t want to find out about another lens with better specs. Do wrist exercises.
They now make SL glass big because they can.  On the M they could not they were constrained . On the R they could but it never got no respect.
They were held back by the viewfinder constraints of the rangefinder cameras since day one or the early 1930?s when viewfinders and rangefinders were built into the tops of the cameras.
I think the SL system will dominate Leica sales and use in 4 or 5 years and the M system become quite minor.
I think the SL camera though costing many thousands but then not spend all the time in the shop is going to be scooped up by many of the best photogs who are a bit more capitalized or more successful. Not just the Ferrari crowd.
It?s going to make Leica a contender again. Instead of the near bum it?s gotten to be making very pricey gear you never get back from the shop.

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 1/15/18, 1:10 PM, "LUG on behalf of Don Dory" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of don.dory at gmail.com> wrote:

    They are using stepping motors so more alike the focusing Sony uses on
    their G series or like Zeiss used on their autofocus camera that moved the
    focal plane.  Quicker, quiet, and extremely precise as they stop
    immediately for all practical purposes.  If you go back to the Lensrental
    blogs you can see how single focal length glass is better with lower
    individual unit deviation, so I am glad that the major optical houses are
    offering really good single focal length glass.
    
    Really, with the M adapters you have your choice; small light and M glass,
    or autofocus and a much larger lens of "equal" optical quality.  Other than
    price who is against choice.
    
    On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
    wrote:
    
    > Marketing gibberish
    >
    > Translation:  We did not try to make it smaller, we tried to make it
    > better,
    > therefore the size didn't matter.
    >
    > The rack and pinion type of focusing that the picture shows is atypical of
    > AF lenses... most use rotary motors.
    >
    > Frank Filippone
    >
    > Red735i at verizon.net
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
    > Behalf
    > Of Robert Adler
    > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:15 AM
    > To: Leica Users Group
    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation
    >
    > But it says all this was done to, "to preserve the compact dimensions of
    > the
    > lenses"...
    >
    >
    > Bob Adler
    > www.robertadlerphotography.com
    > *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
    >
    > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > We have been talking about how fat the SL lenses are in comparison to
    > > M lenses..
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Leica just announced the 75 and 90mm SL lenses.  In the intro
    > > information is a picture of what the lens looks like INSIDE..
    > >
    > > It will explain a lot about the diameter issues..
    > >
    > > Please have a look..
    > >
    > > http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/SL-
    > > Lenses/Prime-Lenses/APO-S
    > > ummicron-SL-75
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Frank Filippone
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Red735i at verizon.net
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    Don
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