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Subject: [Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 22:40:24 -0700
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Hi Geoff,
When you began posting your semi-nude models I became extremely amazed as
they stood far beyond the usual "GARBAGE" offered often seen as we click
through incoming mail.
I must again offer that your modeling images stand so far ahead of the bulk
offered by others yours fall into beautiful well created photographs
constantly!
Where so many of all others offered are nothing more than garbage which I
absolutely abhor and delete immediately. Quite frankly the LUG has always
been and still is a high class photo system to always be held to the highest
of politeness and cleanliness of image and thought! 
AFTER ALL IT IS A FAMILY LOCATION!
cheers,
Dr. Ted Grant O.C.  
-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Geoff Hopkinson via LUG
Sent: May-09-18 3:55 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Geoff Hopkinson
Subject: [Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.

Hello all. I mainly follow via browsing the archives. I thought that this
thread contained many little insights into attitudes of those posting.
Quite a mix of subjects included.
To focus on the photography only I edited out comments I was going to
include regarding Facebook, Me Too and Russian activities.

I regularly shoot fashion nude as Ted knows. Those models are adult women,
in charge of themselves and almost always well paid professionals who have
chosen to specialise in that modelling genre.

 I see no exploitation nor power imbalance in that scenario. The opposite
in fact, where genuine photographers go to lengths to ensure that the model
is respected and comfortable.
Shooting nudes is anything but sexual, or should be. It brings its own
challenges for light and pose and beauty.
I can predict what any one of those women would have to say, regarding
being exploitation, or power imbalance or being told what they should do
etc.

I looked at the link provided and noticed a lot of work that I think fits
Tina's characterisation of salacious and unenjoyable. I think it would be
unfair to label the whole genre in that way.

I stopped sharing any images whether fashion/beauty or with any nudity in
the LUG simply because they didn't seem to fit with anything anyone else
shares.
Worse though (not specific to the LUG) is where the only comments might
actually be a personal comment about the model's body, not of the
photography.
 I hate tattoos or she needs a good feed or the like.  That attitude and if
people want to impose their own standards on others, I see as a society
problem.




Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

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Replies: Reply from don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.)
In reply to: Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.)