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Subject: [Leica] Subject: ....advice, Now NUDITY .
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:40:19 +0100
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I happened to hear a bit of BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour this morning 
which had a brief interview with Ellen von Unwerth the German 
photographer who seems to specialise in the somewhat provocative 
photography of women. She has an interesting take on this subject and it 
can be heard on this? link https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b1p5kc at 
11 mins 15 secs in.

I see Vogue a woman's mag has also an article on her.
http://www.vogue.co.uk/article/ellen-von-unwerth-interview

Douglas


>> On May 9, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Geoff Hopkinson via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all. I mainly follow via browsing the archives. I thought that this
>> thread contained many little insights into attitudes of those posting.
>> Quite a mix of subjects included.
>> To focus on the photography only I edited out comments I was going to
>> include regarding Facebook, Me Too and Russian activities.
>>
>> I regularly shoot fashion nude as Ted knows. Those models are adult women,
>> in charge of themselves and almost always well paid professionals who have
>> chosen to specialise in that modelling genre.
>>
>> I see no exploitation nor power imbalance in that scenario. The opposite
>> in fact, where genuine photographers go to lengths to ensure that the 
>> model
>> is respected and comfortable.
>> Shooting nudes is anything but sexual, or should be. It brings its own
>> challenges for light and pose and beauty.
>> I can predict what any one of those women would have to say, regarding
>> being exploitation, or power imbalance or being told what they should do
>> etc.
>>
>> I looked at the link provided and noticed a lot of work that I think fits
>> Tina's characterisation of salacious and unenjoyable. I think it would be
>> unfair to label the whole genre in that way.
>>
>> I stopped sharing any images whether fashion/beauty or with any nudity in
>> the LUG simply because they didn't seem to fit with anything anyone else
>> shares.
>> Worse though (not specific to the LUG) is where the only comments might
>> actually be a personal comment about the model's body, not of the
>> photography.
>> I hate tattoos or she needs a good feed or the like.  That attitude and if
>> people want to impose their own standards on others, I see as a society
>> problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
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