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Subject: [Leica] Just wondering
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:35:15 -0500
References: <1b8d8b96-13ad-c14b-74f6-290da290aabd@gmail.com>

Hi Peter.  Most images posted don't get a lot of response.  I think that
people are very concerned about hurting feelings and probably most, like
Brian aren't sure what to say.  I do appreciate what you had to say in this
post and agree.

On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:16 AM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I've been on the LUG since 1999 or 2000.  I post quite a few photos
> here. I don't get a lot of responses, perhaps because my photos suck,
> perhaps because I use another non-Leica camera some of the time, or
> perhaps because I don't comment much.  Still, I use a Leica for a
> significant portion of my photography. I have for my entire adult life.
> And I always post my better images here.
>
> Given current realities, many of us have "moved on" to other camera
> systems. Or we supplement our Leica photography with them. Some folks on
> the list have gotten bent out of shape over that.  We've lost some good
> members because of it. The casual passer-by may not realize that they
> are allowed to post pictures that were taken with non-Leica cameras.
> Most of the "old guard" just post pictures, some Leica, some not. If
> we've been here long enough, most of the list is OK with that. But that
> also means that we don't get many new people.
>
> I agree that Leica pricing is an important reason for list attrition.
> Another is visual saturation:  Between all the lists and social media
> sites we supposedly have to follow to keep up and get our work seen, we
> are bombarded huge numbers of images.  That can't help but reduce the
> attention we pay to any individual image. And finally, the Leica way is
> a practiced and cultivated manual skill. Such skills are less important
> now in the popular consciousness. We live in an era where what's cool is
> what new features you can pack into a chip this week. A lot of people
> don't remember what it was like when you had to focus a camera, just as
> they don't remember what it was like when you didn't have the sum of
> human knowledge on your pocketable phone. What we can do is taken for
> granted.
>
> An email list is like a club.  A social media group is more like a
> special interest broadcast. Bigger audience, but fewer and more
> superficial relationships.
>
> In a way, we're all throwbacks. So what? I still like what I shoot. I
> like what many of you shoot. And I like many of you. So I'm here.
>
> Ric Carter wrote:
>  > probably?slinging down a list with a finger and poking at a like is
> easier
>  > than doing an email
>  >
>  > I use the list because I like the company here
>
> I'm with Ric.
>
> --Peter
>
>
> Brian Reid asked:
>  > Someone asked me why, even though there are 700 subscribers to the LUG
>  > and Leica sells 100,000 cameras per year, that only a dozen or so people
>  > ever post pictures. I didn't know what to say.
>  >
>  > Is the era of email winding to an end? 20 years ago there were 2000
>  > subscribers and 10 years ago there were 1300.
>
>
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Don
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