RE: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

As a person who is hardly known for spreading oil on troubled waters around
here, in fact, as a person who is known for jamming bananas into the exhaust
of the LUGmobile, might I humbly suggest that discussion of the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict will have an effect on the LUG similar to that
of Wafkoskys' raising the "A" issue. (I believe Brian has blocked the "a"
word.)

How about we discuss photographing the conflict, rather than get into the
politics of the conflict?

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Appleby
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:20 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos


Daniel, we would be getting into dangerous territory here, but this is a
campaign to drive Palestinians off their land, not a matter of killing off
weeds. It certainly is a poison - the crops in the sprayed areas are dead.

I was filming this situation with my Israeli camerawoman, Natasha, when we
came across an experimental irrigation system constructed by Hajj'Issa using
drip pipes and rainwater harvesting. Her eyes lit up and she said - this is
Israeli technology! I pointed out that Israeli irrigation systems not only
use water taken from the main west bank aquifers (to which palestinians are
denied autonomous access) and the jordan, but are funded by US taxpayers.
Not a welcome observation (our relationship was prickly at times, but
fruitful despite our disagreements. It was certainly a difficult experience
for her.)

The semantics of the territories and Israel are quite different.

I'm happy to pursue it, but maybe the infamous lugforum is a better...
forum.

R.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos


> > contaminate the wells. The whole thing is a bit of a grey area, I was
unable
> > to get any solid info about it. I wouldn't want it to seem I was
accusing
> > Israel of waging chemical warfare against these people, beyond
destroying
> > their crops.
>
> Well, I worked in Israel for about a year in the late seventies. It may
> very well be some kind of poison ... but the same kind the Israelis use on
> their own crops and poison their own wells. When people are getting
> bombed, rocketed and what-have-you ... environmental considerations are
> not high priorities for oneself or for others. It was always a thought
> provoking experience to hear that "smoking is dangerous" ... those
> warnings just didn't hit the spot in the middle east.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Appleby" <rob@robertappleby.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos
> >
> >
> > > in an area marked by the Hebron
> > > Civil Administration as "Nature Reserve" and (here's the logic of it!)
> > > sprayed with herbicides if the farmers plant it. Some of the latter
area
> > > lies very close to the villages themselves, but as far as I know the
> > > villages have not been sprayed with any chemicals (hard to ascertain).
> > >
> >
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