Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/08/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]My point exactly... well, more or less. Although it would be interesting to understand why exactly this issue in particular arouses such passions. What's the dynamics here. Lugforum time. R. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos > As a person who is hardly known for spreading oil on troubled waters around > here, in fact, as a person who is known for jamming bananas into the exhaust > of the LUGmobile, might I humbly suggest that discussion of the > Israeli-Palestinian conflict will have an effect on the LUG similar to that > of Wafkoskys' raising the "A" issue. (I believe Brian has blocked the "a" > word.) > > How about we discuss photographing the conflict, rather than get into the > politics of the conflict? > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Rob Appleby > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:20 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos > > > Daniel, we would be getting into dangerous territory here, but this is a > campaign to drive Palestinians off their land, not a matter of killing off > weeds. It certainly is a poison - the crops in the sprayed areas are dead. > > I was filming this situation with my Israeli camerawoman, Natasha, when we > came across an experimental irrigation system constructed by Hajj'Issa using > drip pipes and rainwater harvesting. Her eyes lit up and she said - this is > Israeli technology! I pointed out that Israeli irrigation systems not only > use water taken from the main west bank aquifers (to which palestinians are > denied autonomous access) and the jordan, but are funded by US taxpayers. > Not a welcome observation (our relationship was prickly at times, but > fruitful despite our disagreements. It was certainly a difficult experience > for her.) > > The semantics of the territories and Israel are quite different. > > I'm happy to pursue it, but maybe the infamous lugforum is a better... > forum. > > R. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos > > > > > contaminate the wells. The whole thing is a bit of a grey area, I was > unable > > > to get any solid info about it. I wouldn't want it to seem I was > accusing > > > Israel of waging chemical warfare against these people, beyond > destroying > > > their crops. > > > > Well, I worked in Israel for about a year in the late seventies. It may > > very well be some kind of poison ... but the same kind the Israelis use on > > their own crops and poison their own wells. When people are getting > > bombed, rocketed and what-have-you ... environmental considerations are > > not high priorities for oneself or for others. It was always a thought > > provoking experience to hear that "smoking is dangerous" ... those > > warnings just didn't hit the spot in the middle east. > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rob Appleby" <rob@robertappleby.com> > > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] re: rob appleby photos > > > > > > > > > > in an area marked by the Hebron > > > > Civil Administration as "Nature Reserve" and (here's the logic of it!) > > > > sprayed with herbicides if the farmers plant it. Some of the latter > area > > > > lies very close to the villages themselves, but as far as I know the > > > > villages have not been sprayed with any chemicals (hard to ascertain). > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html