Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/11/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Neil wrote: people with his approach are the future of art in the 21st century The future isn't looking too bright then. ; ) And also: Anybody can do what Alfie has done, produce something at very low initial cost and advertise it to thousands of people also at very low initial cost regardless of the merits or otherwise of the stuff they produce, and: When the main criteria of success seems to be exposure rather than skill and talent Neil's points are all well made, and Per's response to them "The only "problem" is that there is a lot of "noise" emerging, in the form of in-general-not-very-interesting-junk, and we will have to figure out how to find the good stuff." is also very true. I have had discussions with Ted Grant, and his frustrations in getting an antholgy of his life work (to date) published. There is no source of funding to get the project of the ground. Maybe Ted has to take a marketing lesson from Alfie. (God knows he doesn't need a photography lesson from him) The photography club I attend is celebrating their 50th anniversary next year, and decided to publish a retrospective of some very top notch photography from past and present members. Unfortunately, there is no interest in providing seed money from any of the usual sources to get this off the ground. It seems ironic to me that anything not likely to sell is supported by the arts community, anything that may actually turn a profit is doomed to not getting off the ground, as the funds to get it started are not there for "too commercial" projects. Ted maybe you can describe the trials and tribulations you have experienced with the "Real Men Shoot B&W..." project. Noel Charchuk "Beddoe, Neil" <nbeddoe@lehman.com> wrote: >After last time's conflagration, I downloaded the PDF and viewed it several >times, I've also read some of Alfie's posting history here and on photo.net. >I'm convinced that he and people with his approach are the future of art in >the 21st century and I was wondering if he's managed to achieve any >commercial success. > >Anyone want to buy an unmade bed? > >Neil > >-----Original Message----- >From: bdcolen@earthlink.net [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net] >Sent: 03 November 2002 16:27 >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: RE: [Leica] FS: Photo books and prints. > > >Why? > >On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:29:06 -0000 "Beddoe, Neil" <nbeddoe@lehman.com> wrote: > >> I too am curious. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: S Dimitrov [mailto:sld@earthlink.net] >> Sent: 01 November 2002 15:21 >> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Photo books and >> prints. >> >> >> So Albert, how many of these have you sold? >> Slobodan Dimitrov >> >> Albert Wang wrote: >> > >> > For sale: >> > >> > 1) Postcards of an Existentialist Halftone >> Book/Catalogue (107 pages, 8.5 >> by >> > 11)... $25 plus $10 SH. >> > >> > 2) Complete self-printed and autographed set >> of all 96 selenium quadtone >> > prints in Itoya binder >> > Epson Archival Matte Paper... $150 plus $20 >> SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Matte Paper... $300 plus $20 >> SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 188... $500 plus $20 SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308... $600 plus $20 SHI >> > If interested in other papers, please contact >> at leica_phile@hotmail.com. >> > >> > 3) Single unmatted print >> > Epson Archival Matte Paper... $10 plus $5 SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Matte Paper... $20 plus $5 >> SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 188... $40 plus $5 SHI >> > Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308... $50 plus $5 SHI >> > >> > 4) Postcards of an Existentialist CD-ROM... >> $.50 plus $4 SH >> > >> > For more information or to order please >> contact Albert Wang at >> > leica_phile@hotmail.com accordingly. 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