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Subject: Re: [Leica] 35 Summilux from KEH, should I complain?
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:49:07 -0800
References: <37E4BA02-5A3E-11D7-8AA7-000393802534@mac.com>

Martin Howard wrote:
> 
> Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
> > Martin if we were as casual as you say we should be about our lenses we
> > wouldn't be shelling out thousands for them forsaking autofocus instead
> > of the hundreds everyone else does.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that you have to be casual about it.  I'm suggesting
> that you set a standard and then stick to it, rather than getting your
> wires all crossed about an issue that only the person it involves can
> solve.  If oil on the aperture blades bothers you when you've paid $$$
> (or even $$) for a lens, then return the thing and get a refund.  Or
> sell it on to someone who doesn't care.  If not, go shoot with it.  But
> posting a question on the LUG asking *other* people what *you* should
> do is, for all intents and purposes, a waste of time and effort.  It's
> pretty certain that everyone here has a different standard.  Some
> people would shriek at stuff that others wouldn't even notice.
> 
> Not to mention that no one else on the LUG has even seen this lens, or
> know how much oil is on the aperture blades.
> 
> The subject of this thread is "35mm Summilux from KEH, should I
> complain?".  Personally, I don't see what the question mark is doing
> there and it'd probably be much more useful if KEH heard about it
> before the LUG did.
> 
> M.
> 
You're right Martin I didn't even know what they were talking about
exactly and its the kind of thing which usually ticks me off as he
should just walk around the block and shoot a roll and see if it looks
good is what i'd normally say.

There is a point to me made that buying old stuff might require some
knowledge that buying current stuff doesn't.
I might want to hear some of that stuff here instead of from KEH.
And oil on the aperture blades might be one of those issues that a
knowledgeable old stuff buyer can advise a novice.

Others would be a scratch on the front or real element. How big a deal
is that? That had been a topic if you recall. Well that  you can just
test and decide for yourself but oil on the blades you don't know if it
HAS to be serviced at no small cost NOW or terrible things start
happening in the future or what. I did'nt know!
I guess when you call KEH they don't immediately ask you for your credit
card number? The voice on the phone could give useful advice on aperture
blades; how to keep them happy?? Me i'm glad to hear it from Henning.
Lets not forget. This vaguely has something to do with photography,
Leica photography even.
I expected stupid political cracks today. I'm happy for greasy aperture
blades from days gone by!


Mark Rabiner
Portland, Oregon USA
http://www.rabinergroup.com
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