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Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternate to current 35mm ASPH?
From: "faneuil" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:15:08 -0500
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You sound like my accountant - "Buy and hold.."
I am not going to sell my 50 summicron.
I really do appreciate your passion.

Eric

ps. Do you really talk to your lenses?
Do they ever talk back?
In German or Canadian?
:)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabinergroup.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternate to current 35mm ASPH?


> faneuil wrote:
> >
> > Ok - so from all the responses I have received I am thinking of selling
my
> > 35 lux ASPH for the compactness of a 4th gen 35 Summicron.  Stop f1.4
all
> > that much, esp as I usually have my camera loaded with 400 NPH or TCN.
> > The compactness of the late spherical model is just so atttactive..
> >
> > Fickle Eric
> >
>
> You dot need F 1.4 because you're shooting 400?
> My guess is more photographs have been taken at f 1.4 with 400 film than
> any other combination F. stop film there is.
> I shoot f 1.4 with 1600 film as a matter of course and f 1 with the same
> film as well. As  most not most SLR people consider f1.4 to be medium.
> Faster than that is fast. They cant figure out how we get anything at
> all with a Summicron F2 lens with out irradiated jacked up 1600 film to
> ASA 6400!
>
> Me I'm not a buyer and seller. If I had the sharpest 35mm lens in the
> history of the known universe (which you do) and probably for some time
> to come and a recently invented innovation which relatively few have I'd
> not sell it to raise cash for an earlier model which pretty much
> represents an earlier technology. Not the best glass but a cute
> different thing. (Look you see though this little window!)  Now lets not
> obsess over terms lets just say the ASPH's have been a boom for Leica
> making it in my opinion Definitely higher quality image makers than ANY
> 35mm format competition. Before we thought they were probably sharper
> (sorry Erwin). Now we KNOW. (I'm sure some don't. It's big world and a
> big enough list) About one every three times this is said on the list
> the whole list goes up in arms claiming there Mamiya glass or whatever
> is just as good!
>
> So hold on to that jewel you can pick up a Summicron non Asph any day
> for a chump change. Use it when you're walking miles at a time. Use the
> Asph when you need the best as in the best images.
>
> And when you GET that little Summicron hold it up and stroke it's little
> head and say to it:
>
> "Nice little Summicron. I'll NEVER trade you in for some other little
> expensive thing in a few months or years.
> You're mine forever!"
>
> The lens does better when it feels warm and secure.
>
> And a question arises what did you get the lens for - long distance
> hiking or taking quality photographs?
> My guess based on nothing is the latter but now if you want the former
> don't forsake the later for cash. You might need to take a real good
> shot in your own backyard or in your house. Wide open as we said the non
> Asph is do do.
> Compact. But you expect that from an f4 lens.
>
> I'm sure glad when i got my Noctilux i did not then sell my 50
> Summicron!. It's still very useful to me as a matter of fact, more
> useful than the Noctilux which really is a special purpose tool. I often
> find myself not in dark alleys or otherwise stalking the night air. I'm
> home watching television is more like it or printing in my darkroom or
> here and posting to the LUG.
> I should also say thought that some (like Ted) cant seem to pry it off
> the camera and use it all the time. He's all over the place and never
> thinks twice about the weight of his lens.
>
> Sorry for the overstatements my medication just kicked in.
>
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Portland, Oregon USA
> http://www.rabinergroup.com
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