Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/17

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Subject: RE: [Leica] M Classics Special edition bag question
From: "Kit McChesney | acmefoto" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:28:34 -0600

Well, I would not go as far as chicken sushi, but I would say that a locally
grown bird prepared with care will be much less dangerous than one from some
nasty chicken plant. They have to treat the meat with all sorts of chemicals
to keep it from being infested with bacteria. I saw a program on PBS not
long ago about how beef is processed ... they have these big car wash type
booths that they run the carcasses through and steam clean to get that stuff
(you know, what's on the fan) off of them. It's disgusting what goes on in
those places. Out here in Beef--It's What's for Dinner-Land, ConAgra's plant
in Greeley that had to recall several million pounds of beef recently
because it was full of e. coli. That comes from an unnamed substance that
should stay inside the intestinal tract of the animal, and should not find
its way onto the surface, or ground in, to the meat that one eats. I'll stop
there for fear of grossing everyone to absolute death. Suffice to say you
should not buy pre-ground beef. If you are a meat-eater, select a good
butcher, and ask for a nice chuck roast and have the butcher grind that into
hamburger meat for you. Much less likely to have nastiness than the stuff
that's pre-ground at the "factory."

Yuck.

Kit

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of bdcolen
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:04 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] M Classics Special edition bag question


Got it - So it's not what the chickens eat, nor is it due to basic
chicken biology - it's a Frank Perdue kind of thing. Which is to say
that if one buys a chicken from Farmer Brown down the road - if there is
a Farmer Brown down the road, who takes it out of the coop, kills it,
cleans it in his Farmer Brown clean kitchen and hands it to you, you can
have chicken sushi?

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
McChesney | acmefoto
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] M Classics Special edition bag question


Don't ever go into a chicken-processing plant if you want the answer to
that question, unless it's a small production facility. Same for beef.
The nastiness comes from dirty processing practices. I won't say what
gets all over the meat, but it's the same thing that hits the fan under
different circumstances.

People in the olden days never used to get sick from poultry, because
they didn't get garbage all over the bird when they killed and plucked
and cleaned it. To this day, my mother still makes us get out of the
kitchen when she's cleaning chicken, says there is bacteria all over it.
Then she uses bleach in the sink after she finishes.

Kit

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of bdcolen
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:56 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] M Classics Special edition bag question


Okay, if we're going to stay so damn far off topic for the week... Being
an Amurkin, I have always been taught that poultry has to be virtually
nuked if one doesn't want to die of some godawful infestation...And then
I had a dinner in Amsterdam where I was served rare duck - which was
fabulous. So what is it about those Dutch ducks that makes them safe to
eat practically raw, while in the USofA one daren't eat anything but
highway-gray duck or chicken?

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of John
Straus
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:11 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] M Classics Special edition bag question


on 4/16/03 4:42 PM, Jerry Lehrer at jerryleh@pacbell.net wrote:

> Mmmmm!  Belgian Duck, YUMM, if the breast is medium rare!

PFFFFFFFFFFt !!!!!! Jerry, you were just stating last week or so that
(nose in the air) Duck breast is SUPPOSED to be cooked to RARE. Now you
want medium rare !?!?!

You Californians...make up your damn minds ;)

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