Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/02

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: Re: [Leica] digital in low light
From: Jim Hemenway <Jim@hemenway.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:09:46 -0500
References: <152.29b08df6.2d4d03bc@aol.com> <00cd01c3e84d$f159b5e0$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> <401C561E.4020704@wanadoo.nl> <11931990-5464-11D8-89A9-0050E42E6E0B@shaw.ca> <1075607857.18186.47.camel@creo_pc3> <401D1620.5030606@osheaven.net> <EBDBB269-54D1-11D8-8FF8-000A958F513A@jphotog.com>

Well said!

Jim

Eric Welch wrote:
> And photography isn't market-driven? Sure, believe that if you will. 
> Canon vs. Nikon. Leica vs. Contax. Hasselblad vs. Rollei, etc.
> 
> You are right that a lot of terrible art comes from Photoshop. Same as 
> the paint-by-numbers revolution - which is on-going!
> 
> But what you're saying is simply nonsense. When they put matrix metering 
> in cameras, people got much better photos technically, but they're still 
> the boring photos of their spouse standing in front of the [insert 
> landmark name here]. Boring photos come from boring photographers, not 
> boring subjects.
> 
> I remember Mike Johnstone (editor of Photo Techniques and former Lugger) 
> one time complaining to me about photographers who were technically 
> adept, but who shot such bad photos it made is job much harder.
> 
> I'm a photo editor who spends a lot of time at the big Stock agencies 
> looking for photos. Even the professionals shoot a lot of garbage, let 
> alone amateurs. Some times it's almost impossible to find just the right 
> photo - even at Getty where they have 88 million images!!! In fact, in 
> my field that's a major problem - gemstones are not a real popular 
> subject for the average photographers out there - an opportunity for me 
> and some international travel in the next few years! :-)
> 
> You obviously have never delved into Photoshop much. And that's okay. 
> But it gives much more precise control in the quality of an image than 
> anyone could possibly do with film - without a massive amount of wasted 
> materials and time. Photoshop lets us get out and shoot faster. More 
> shooting time, less lab time is a formula for improving photo quality in 
> REAL terms - that is, practice makes you a better photographer. (In most 
> cases anyway.)
> 
> Photoshop is a tool, neither negative or positive. Like a developer or a 
> filter. A very versatile photo tool for sure. But it will neither make 
> you a better or worse photographer. But used right, it can make your 
> work of higher quality. As for painting, I don't know any graphics 
> professional who would consider Photoshop better than real painting. 
> Though there are some who would consider Illustrator or a certain Corel 
> product something worth considering. But they are different media than 
> painting - just like painting wasn't supplanted by photography, neither 
> will it be by digital arts. Only hacks would thing that.
> 
> As for your socialist leanings - I'm certainly glad you're not the king 
> of the world. People seem to always want to tax those things in which 
> they are not interested. I think painters are paid too much. So any time 
> someone paints a painting and makes more than $500, there should be a 50 
> percent tax.
> 
> There, how's that for creating art for the masses?
> 
> Eric Welch
> Carlsbad, CA
> http://www.jphotog.com
> 
> “Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist 
> the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” H. L. Mencken
> On Feb 1, 2004, at 7:07 AM, sam wrote:
> 
>> I don't believe anyone on the forum has delved into how much of the 
>> digital revolution is market driven. From the local lad who has a bit 
>> too much money in his pocket to the pro who buckles under to his 
>> employer for faster production. All this talk about how fast and how 
>> easy digital production is a sure sign that the talk is about 
>> production, not art. Reminds me of the offers we received in art 
>> school to make those awful paintings to be sold wholesale as living 
>> room "art".
> 
> -- 
> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html
> 

- -- 

Jim - http://www.hemenway.com

- --
To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html

In reply to: Message from Teresa299@aol.com (Re: [Leica] Fw: [Large Format] Beth Keiser Shoots B&W 4x5 ForCampaign Coverage)
Message from "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> ([Leica] digital in low light)
Message from Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> (Re: [Leica] digital in low light)
Message from John Collier <jbcollier@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] digital in low light)
Message from Feli di Giorgio <feli@creocollective.com> (Re: [Leica] digital in low light)
Message from sam <sam@osheaven.net> (Re: [Leica] digital in low light)
Message from Eric Welch <eric@jphotog.com> (Re: [Leica] digital in low light)