Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/25

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Subject: [Leica] Ten years behind? I think not.
From: abridge at dcn.org (Adam Bridge)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:20:49 2004

On 5/5/04 <leica@rcmckee.com (R. Clayton McKee)> thoughtfully wrote: 

<snip>

>Why is the R series DOA for me?  Several reasons:
>
>1.  I own six EOS bodies and lenses covering the range from 14-400mm,
>plus flashes...

There's no better reason than this single reason. You have totally embraced a
system, learned its quirks and kinks, know its lenses, and can make them 
sing.

No other reason is necessary.

>
>2.  Finding someone who can repair R's,  in the Western Hemisphere at
>least, is problematic. 

I THOUGHT there was a professional service available from Leica USA for
professionals. Am I wrong? Or are they just as slow as everyone else?

>3.  I've never yet seen an R in the hands of a professional PJ at an
>event.  

I shuddered when I read this but your point about borrowing a body or broken
item carries weight. Of course borrowing an "extra" 1Ds might be a bit more
difficult.

>
>4.  Every workshop/pj convention/course I've ever been to was 
>sponsored heavily by, among others, Canon or Nikon or both.  This
>tells me these guys WANT my business, and they want it SERIOUSLY.  
>The top end cameras in the Canon line were designed FOR working pj's 
>on several levels; I'm told the Nikons were too.   

It's marketing. They have the big bucks for marketing and they can do it.
Marketing is almost NEVER a reason to buy anything.

>It matters.  I don't have time to think about my cameras, I'm busy
>thinking about my pictures... and I want a camera designed by someone
>who knows what I need.  I don't know that Leica's ever even thought
>about the marketing on that level.  

I suspect they just can't afford to enter at the same level that Canon or 
Nikon
can. A complete marketing plan to embrace the pro photojournalist might cost
more than developing the digital M or the next major lens.

>This isn't to take anything away from the R, but ergonomics be 
>damned, the guy who designed the 1n got inside my head to do it. 
>First camera I've ever used that grew into my hand in a matter of
>about four seconds.  (And the F1N's I used when I started had
>something of the same thing...)

I feel this way about the R - it fits my hand perfectly, the controls are 
where
they ought to be. The R9 fixed the only qualm I have. AND I see the same 
quality
of design going into the Digital R back. The offerings from Canon are made by
the same brain-dead designers who made the VCRs you couldn't program.

I take your point about why a photojournalist wouldn't consider an R.

But I doubt there are many left shooting film in any shape or form. For those
who DO shoot film then the joys of the R's are still there.

Adam Bridge



In reply to: Message from leica at rcmckee.com (R. Clayton McKee) ([Leica] Ten years behind? I think not.)