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Subject: [Leica] still more on Leica "rumor" and NYT
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Jan 4 11:10:01 2006

And you were a reporter where? And are an expert in reporting and
journalistic standards based on what? And have written precisely how many
stories on deadline? Just wondering.


On 1/4/06 1:54 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote:

> This exactly the sort of NYT apologist retort I anticipated. That's why my
> original post included a whiff of Basic Reporting 101, which, predictably, 
> is
> missing from your reply.
> 
> How do you know what the "mining company told family members and others?" 
> Was
> it broadcast on TV? Did you see actual, talking-head footage? Did that 
> talking
> head say to the effect of "It has been confirmed that rescuers have 
> reached 12
> surviving miners?" If so, I defer to you. I didn't see it. Further, who is 
> a
> "mining company?" How can a company speak? It speaks through a spokesman. 
> Who
> is that person? What, exactly, did he say? Report it, wrapped it in 
> quotation
> marks.  
> 
> And that's just part of why this particular misreporting debacle is so
> embarrassing. Nobody from the wire service or any other reporting agency 
> took
> the time CONFIRM a damn thing. Not one damn thing. See the difference?
> Spreading rumors and miscommunication versus factual, substantiated 
> reporting.
> 
> Don't settle for sloppy reporting. Demand facts. Get information from 
> numerous
> sources, whether you're the reporter or the reader.
> 
> -Chris Lawson
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Matt Powell <wooderson@gmail.com>
>> On 1/4/06, mcyclwritr@comcast.net <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Not to klck the Gray Lady while she's down, but I heard that today's NYT
>>> front 
>> page >trumpeted 12 survivors from the West Virginia mine tragedy. Can you 
>> say
>> "scoop >hungry?" "Unsubstantiated?" "Reckless?"
>> 
>> That's what the mining company told family members and others
>> gathered. Hardly the reporter's fault that he passed along what was
>> being stated on the scene.
>> 
>> --
>> MP
>> wooderson@gmail.com
> 
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