Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No, not "less wantonly sloppy " - not at all sloppy. I, for one, am still waiting to hear about your new career as a press critic, and the experience upon which it's based. And while we're speaking of "wantonly sloppy," and lack of accuracy, I wonder when we can expect to hear to see your correction- 'Oh, the Governor the state announced it? Guess I was wrong when I said the Times was irresponsible in reporting it." On 1/4/06 3:29 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote: > Craig's newpaper reported: > > "The story we published, from the Associated Press, quoted the governor of > West Virginia and a high-level state official, both on the record, saying > 12 > miners were alive and being examined. Relatives were celebrating and > singing > hymns. The story noted that the mine owner, International Coal Group Inc., > had > not confirmed that the miners were alive. But neither had company officials > done anything to contradict the reports - and it appears they took several > hours to set the record straight." > > True, one would be tempted to accept what the state's governor said as > truth > regarding the matter. While the first-edition stories were incorrect, > nonetheless, that would seem to make the story less wantonly sloppy. > > Do note, however, that the mining company's spokesman did NOT proclaim > there > were survivors. Nope. > > -Chris Lawson > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Craig Zeni <clzeni@mindspring.com> >> >> On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:54 PM, mcyclwritr@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> This exactly the sort of NYT apologist retort I anticipated. That's >>> why my original post included a whiff of Basic Reporting 101, which, >>> predictably, is missing from your reply. >>> >>> How do you know what the "mining company told family members and >>> others?" Was it broadcast on TV? Did you see actual, talking-head >>> footage? Did that talking head say to the effect of "It has been >>> confirmed that rescuers have reached 12 surviving miners?" If so, I >>> defer to you. I didn't see it. Further, who is a "mining company?" How >>> can a company speak? It speaks through a spokesman. Who is that >>> person? What, exactly, did he say? Report it, wrapped it in quotation >>> marks. >>> >>> And that's just part of why this particular misreporting debacle is so >>> embarrassing. Nobody from the wire service or any other reporting >>> agency took the time CONFIRM a damn thing. Not one damn thing. See the >>> difference? Spreading rumors and miscommunication versus factual, >>> substantiated reporting. >>> >>> Don't settle for sloppy reporting. Demand facts. Get information from >>> numerous sources, whether you're the reporter or the reader. >> >> I believe that you're incorrect. >> >> From our local newspaper, read this: http://tinyurl.com/7sggw - "The >> story we published, from the Associated Press, quoted the governor of >> West Virginia and a high-level state official, both on the record, >> saying 12 miners were alive and being examined." >> >> Still convinced it's sloppy? Only if you think that it's irresponsible >> and sloppy to actually trust an on-the-record quote from the governor >> of the state. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information