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Subject: [Leica] Real patriots don't take pictures
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Mar 31 10:50:42 2006

No kidding. 


On 3/31/06 1:37 PM, "Barney Quinn" <bquinn@sgi.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> BD,
> 
> You're right, but it's a whole lot easier and cheaper to hassle innocent
> people
> taking a few happy snaps then it is to protect chemical plants, something
> which
> takes a lot of work, expense, concentration, and - gasp - might put you in 
> the
> position of having to tell a community or a business they can't do just
> exactly
> what they want to do.
> 
> Barney
> 
> 
> 
> "B. D. Colen" wrote:
> 
>> Well, actually, if I seriously needed photos of a particular place, and I
>> was aware of the way people are being hassled, I might well use a 4x5 on a
>> tripod with a darkcloth, wearing a Tilly hat, Mephisto shoes, and a Domke
>> photo vest, with a Parker 51 in one pocket , a fifth of single malt in
>> another other, with a Leica IIIf hanging around my neck - because who 
>> would
>> think that a 'bad guy' would be so obvious? Of course I might well have a
>> digital camera of some sort inside the 4x5...:-)
>> 
>> Seriously, the whole thing is idiotic - if someone wants these sorts of
>> images, they're going to get them. Period. I'd like to see a fraction of 
>> the
>> time and attention being wasted on making sure that none of us take photos
>> of some run down courthouse in East Buttbleep, or the Port Authority Bus
>> Terminal applied to securing chemical plants and ports. Until that's done,
>> we're screwed - pure and simple.
>> 
>> Back to working on my new website.
>> 
>> On 3/31/06 11:01 AM, "bruce" <bruce@ralgo.nl> wrote:
>> 
>>> If that bothers you, Frank, imagine what they get-up-to from outer/
>>> inner space (satellites) ................ Google, but far more
>>> efficient + telephone listening etc. etc.
>>> 
>>> B.
>>> 
>>> On 31-mrt-2006, at 17:54, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I get hassled all the time with a 4x5 view camera.  Why would any self
>>>> respecting honest to goodness no-good-nik ever use a 4x5, on a
>>>> tripod, with
>>>> a dark cloth, taking 10 minutes to shoot 1 piece of film of a
>>>> sensitive
>>>> subject?
>>>> 
>>>> If I were a no-good-nik, I would use a digital camera from a moving
>>>> car to
>>>> minimize my exposure.  What is wrong with the official idiots
>>>> acting as our
>>>> protectors?  How many times I have been chased off shooting a
>>>> public place
>>>> with my 4x5, to watch some tourist go up and happy snap the same
>>>> image?  Why
>>>> is one more subversive looking than the other?
>>>> 
>>>> If taking pictures is not approved of, what do our elected
>>>> officials think
>>>> of the thousands to millions of pictures already taken of the
>>>> building?
>>>> Amateur pictures, professional pictures, printed pictures,
>>>> newspaper images,
>>>> even building plans.... they are all public already...
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe it speaks to the relative brightness of our officials versus the
>>>> brightness of the bad guys.  I have yet to hear of a terrorist cell
>>>> getting
>>>> caught because they took a picture of anything.......
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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