Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>Hey Henning, I did read your post on this and
>replied asking about the second mark that I
>can't see.
>This is from the Leica US site
>The LEICA UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M
>enables precise cropping of the subject with the
>LEICA TRI-ELMAR-M f/4/16-18-21 mm ASPH.
>on the LEICA M7 and MP as well as the digital
>LEICA M8. For the LEICA M8, the focal length
>extension factor of 1.33x has to be
>considered, so in this case the bright-line
>frames for 21, 24 or 28 mm are set on the LEICA
>UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M.
>
>I like German beer
>Or if you find an extra index mark to show us, I'll split the beers with
>you.
>
>Cheers
>Hoppy
As noted, look at the top view of the viewfinder on dpreview.
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>On Behalf Of
>Henning Wulff
>Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 12:02
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>
>>Gene,
>>Yes on an M7.
>>No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-)
>>The universal wide finder does not compensate
>>for the "crop factor". There is no interface
>>with the camera except for a shoe mount.
>>The internal finder does compensate, of course.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Hoppy
>
>I think you guys missed this before, but I'll
>point it out again. There are TWO lines on the
>dial on which you set the focal length. One for
>the M8, one for the film bodies. Easy. Both
>formats are taken care of.
>
>The dpreview picture of the finder shows this clearly.
>
>Please contact me for information on how to send me my sixpack. :-)
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:
>>lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>>On Behalf Of
>>grduprey@mchsi.com
>>Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>>
>>Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks
>>like you set the focal lenght for the actual
>>focal length for the camera. And that
>>is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical
>>and the lit from Leica on their site.
>>
>>Gene
>>
>>
>>-------------- Original message from "G
>>Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>:
>>--------------
>>
>>
>>> Gene, what about on an M7
>>> What about the current 21 on an M8?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> grduprey@mchsi.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>>>
>>> Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the
>>>focal lenght of the lens you are
>>> attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" :
>>> --------------
>>>
>>>
>>> > And the quoted price for lens and universal
>>>wide angle finder is 3,500 Euro.
>>> > Actually when you read the spec more
>>>carefully, that finder will display 5
>>> > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since
>>> > there's no interface with the camera (except
>>>for a mounting foot) I guess you
>>> > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8.
>>> >
>>> > So for M8:
>>> > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21
>>>but you actually get 21, 24 or 28
> >> > effectively.
>>> > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set
>>>28. For the 24, 28 and up you use
>>> > the camera's finder.
>>> >
>>> > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21
>>> > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28
>>> > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder.
>>> >
>>> > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers Hoppy
>>> > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> >> >
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>On Behalf Of
>>> > grduprey@mchsi.com
>>> > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41
>>> > To: Leica Users Group
>>> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>>> >
>>> > The Leica web site has all the info on it
>>>also. Considering the cost of the
>>> > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri
>>> > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And
>>>then it is the only finder you would
>>> > need.
>>> >
>>> > Gene
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" :
>>> > --------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Mark the specs and brochure are released,
>>>at least to user forum members. I
>>> > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now.
>>> > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight
>>> > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm
>>> > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm
>>> > > Weight approx. 350g
>>> > > For us metric folks.
>>> > >
>>> > > But you are going to have to buy the
>>>horrendously complex and expensive
>>> super
>>> > > finder thingie to go with it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers
>>> > > Hoppy
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> > > >
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>>On Behalf Of
>>> > > Mark Rabiner
>>> > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44
>>> > > To: lug@leica-users.org
>>> > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/
>>> > > !!!!!!!~!!!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth
>>>watering hot little volcano of an
>>> > > item as part of the dpreview article on
>>>the M8. I wonder if anyone bothered
>>> > > turning the page!!!?!.
>>> > > I think we're all to busy playing with
>>>our DSLR's to bother with what's
>>> > > happening with Leica.
>>> > >
>>> > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm.
>>> > >
>>> > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly.
>>> > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution.
>>> > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica
>>> film
>>> > > shooting.
>>> > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting.
>>> > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim.
>>> > >
>>> > > But sooner or later it will be
>>>interesting and I think it will be after
>>> > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33
>>> "format".
>>> > > With advantages in the compactness end as
>>>well as the quality of the other
>>> > > end as its an optic designed around a
>>>much smaller image circle. And can
>>> > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area.
>>> > > Smaller the circle the higher the
>>>resolution and so on are going to be.
>>> > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which
>>>covers medium format as in 6x6cm
>>> > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a
>>>lens designed for that format has.
>>> > > And its obvious a medium format lens is
>>>nowhere near as compact as lenses
>>> > > made for 35.
>>> > >
>>> > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm
>>>F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor lens.
>>> > > Featherweight and incredibly compact.
>>> > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller.
>>> > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off.
>>> > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a
>>> tight
>>> > > headshot of his Pomeranian.
>>> > >
>>> > > Or Shih Tzu.
>>> > >
>>> > > Or Brussels Griffon.
>>> > >
> >> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Mark Rabiner
>>> > >
>>> > > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W
>>> > > Whitestone NY 11357
>>> > >
>>> > > http://rabinergroup.com/
>>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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