Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>Hey Henning, I did read your post on this and >replied asking about the second mark that I >can't see. >This is from the Leica US site >The LEICA UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M >enables precise cropping of the subject with the >LEICA TRI-ELMAR-M f/4/16-18-21 mm ASPH. >on the LEICA M7 and MP as well as the digital >LEICA M8. For the LEICA M8, the focal length >extension factor of 1.33x has to be >considered, so in this case the bright-line >frames for 21, 24 or 28 mm are set on the LEICA >UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M. > >I like German beer >Or if you find an extra index mark to show us, I'll split the beers with >you. > >Cheers >Hoppy As noted, look at the top view of the viewfinder on dpreview. >-----Original Message----- >From: >lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org >[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] >On Behalf Of >Henning Wulff >Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 12:02 >To: Leica Users Group >Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > >>Gene, >>Yes on an M7. >>No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-) >>The universal wide finder does not compensate >>for the "crop factor". There is no interface >>with the camera except for a shoe mount. >>The internal finder does compensate, of course. >> >>Cheers >>Hoppy > >I think you guys missed this before, but I'll >point it out again. There are TWO lines on the >dial on which you set the focal length. One for >the M8, one for the film bodies. Easy. Both >formats are taken care of. > >The dpreview picture of the finder shows this clearly. > >Please contact me for information on how to send me my sixpack. :-) > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: >>lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org >>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] >>On Behalf Of >>grduprey@mchsi.com >>Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02 >>To: Leica Users Group >>Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens >> >>Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks >>like you set the focal lenght for the actual >>focal length for the camera. And that >>is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical >>and the lit from Leica on their site. >> >>Gene >> >> >>-------------- Original message from "G >>Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: >>-------------- >> >> >>> Gene, what about on an M7 >>> What about the current 21 on an M8? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>> Of >>> grduprey@mchsi.com >>> Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01 >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens >>> >>> Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the >>>focal lenght of the lens you are >>> attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago. >>> >>> Gene >>> >>> >>> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : >>> -------------- >>> >>> >>> > And the quoted price for lens and universal >>>wide angle finder is 3,500 Euro. >>> > Actually when you read the spec more >>>carefully, that finder will display 5 >>> > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since >>> > there's no interface with the camera (except >>>for a mounting foot) I guess you >>> > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. >>> > >>> > So for M8: >>> > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 >>>but you actually get 21, 24 or 28 > >> > effectively. >>> > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set >>>28. For the 24, 28 and up you use >>> > the camera's finder. >>> > >>> > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 >>> > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 >>> > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. >>> > >>> > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. >>> > >>> > Cheers Hoppy >>> > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > >> > >[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] >On Behalf Of >>> > grduprey@mchsi.com >>> > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 >>> > To: Leica Users Group >>> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens >>> > >>> > The Leica web site has all the info on it >>>also. Considering the cost of the >>> > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri >>> > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And >>>then it is the only finder you would >>> > need. >>> > >>> > Gene >>> > >>> > >>> > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : >>> > -------------- >>> > >>> > >>> > > Mark the specs and brochure are released, >>>at least to user forum members. I >>> > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. >>> > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight >>> > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm >>> > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm >>> > > Weight approx. 350g >>> > > For us metric folks. >>> > > >>> > > But you are going to have to buy the >>>horrendously complex and expensive >>> super >>> > > finder thingie to go with it. >>> > > >>> > > Cheers >>> > > Hoppy >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org >> > > > >>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] >>On Behalf Of >>> > > Mark Rabiner >>> > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 >>> > > To: lug@leica-users.org >>> > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens >>> > > >>> > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ >>> > > !!!!!!!~!!!!! >>> > > >>> > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth >>>watering hot little volcano of an >>> > > item as part of the dpreview article on >>>the M8. I wonder if anyone bothered >>> > > turning the page!!!?!. >>> > > I think we're all to busy playing with >>>our DSLR's to bother with what's >>> > > happening with Leica. >>> > > >>> > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. >>> > > >>> > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. >>> > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. >>> > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica >>> film >>> > > shooting. >>> > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. >>> > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. >>> > > >>> > > But sooner or later it will be >>>interesting and I think it will be after >>> > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 >>> "format". >>> > > With advantages in the compactness end as >>>well as the quality of the other >>> > > end as its an optic designed around a >>>much smaller image circle. And can >>> > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. >>> > > Smaller the circle the higher the >>>resolution and so on are going to be. >>> > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which >>>covers medium format as in 6x6cm >>> > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a >>>lens designed for that format has. >>> > > And its obvious a medium format lens is >>>nowhere near as compact as lenses >>> > > made for 35. >>> > > >>> > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm >>>F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor lens. >>> > > Featherweight and incredibly compact. >>> > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. >>> > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. >>> > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a >>> tight >>> > > headshot of his Pomeranian. >>> > > >>> > > Or Shih Tzu. >>> > > >>> > > Or Brussels Griffon. >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Mark Rabiner >>> > > >>> > > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W >>> > > Whitestone NY 11357 >>> > > >>> > > http://rabinergroup.com/ >>> > > >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >-- > * Henning J. 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