Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/11/14

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Subject: [Leica] (sans objet)
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Wed Nov 14 16:47:59 2007
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Henning,

Got it. He may have an odd ball. I only have 8 or 9 adapters for the  
few lenses I use. I don't think that even scratches the surface.

Good luck on your search
Len


On Nov 14, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Henning Wulff wrote:

>> Henning,
>>
>> Claude is having a problem matching up the 135 Elmar, not the Tele- 
>> Elmar. These lenses have totally different formulas. I have no way  
>> of comparing the screw threads as I don't have the older Elmar.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Henning Wulff wrote:
>>
>>>>  Hi Henning,
>>>>
>>>>  Don't mix up the Elmar and the tele-elmar.
>>>>  To mount the tele-elmar you have to pull of the lowest light  
>>>> baffle. the large thread to the front is only used to mount the  
>>>> lens head in the normal schnecke.
>>>>  The later tele-elmar had a different mount which i don't think  
>>>> can unscrew the head.
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>  Michiel Fokkema
>>>>
>>>>  Henning Wulff wrote:
>>>>>>   Claude, I must have sent too much information. You may like  
>>>>>> to re-read my reply. You need the OTZFO universal focusing  
>>>>>> adaptor, the
>>>>>>   number is 16464 or 16465, The other adaptors screw into that  
>>>>>> one. It does fit. I have it in front of me. I assembled it for  
>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>   double check.
>>>>>>   Camera body>Visoflex II or III>OTZFO>16471>16472> lens head.  
>>>>>> This is the Leitz Wetzlar f4 135, made between 1960 and 1965.  
>>>>>> It has a
>>>>>>   chrome body. There was a version sold as head only. I  
>>>>>> haven't seen that. It was replace by the Tele-Elmar
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>  No, both these lenses are Tele-Elmars. Clearly the identical  
>>> optical construction; just when you unscrew the head of the one  
>>> it has non-standard attachment threads and location of threads.  
>>> I'll get the details tomorrow after I look at it again.
>>>
>
>
> Len,
>
> I know. In an earlier post, which I unfortunately left out, I  
> mentioned that Leica's mounting and threading wasn't absolutely  
> consistent, and that I had two Tele-Elmars with incompatible and  
> totally different threads and mounts. The earlier one does not fit  
> directly into a 16464 as it should, and has larger diameter threads  
> closer to the front (not the coarse ones that connect it to the  
> standard focussing mount.
>
> I realize the question is about the Elmar, but Louis was saying  
> that what Hoppy had described didn't work for him. I was just  
> illustrating that the adapter system didn't always work like the  
> textbook says. I've had other instances of this happening. I have a  
> very large collection of adapters, and if there's one thing I  
> collect, it's adapters :-). Can't ever have too many, and in the  
> end, I'm still looking for some (large thread Photar to LTM, for  
> instance).
>
> -- 
>    *            Henning J. Wulff
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