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Subject: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Wed Nov 14 16:16:35 2007
References: <111420071430.17702.473B069900080AF600004526219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com><000201c826cc$1d7af380$6401a8c0@asus930> <aed41d690711141348i3a6968daj8ba729772896dc1d@mail.gmail.com> <000801c82719$8e81b530$6401a8c0@asus930>

I think a few shots of Missy should do it.  ;-)

Len


On Nov 14, 2007, at 6:53 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Jeffery, I knew that your 50mm lens discussion warning radar would  
> catch this one. Now how about a shoot-athon, guys, with a
> selection of your favourites? Steve is singing in my ear about the  
> 50 asph lacking soul or music. I want to see quantifiable
> objective comparisons here. Identify the specifics that appeal with  
> a specific optic, guys. You can use words like resolution,
> contrast, sharpness/unsharpness transition, depth impression,  
> plasticity, flare resistance even bo-ke. Don't tell me anything about
> steenkin' glow or feelings unless you can demonstrate what it  
> is ;-) Smooth out of focus area can mean spherical aberration masking
> the detail in the OOF. There you go, Hoppy has thrown down the  
> gauntlet. Hey I think I am channelling Erwin Puts here! Does Erwin
> ever read this list?
>
> Important disclaimer. Yes I know that millions of beautiful  
> photographs have been taken with a plethora of lens designs. Oh and no
> offence meant to anyone, of course. I really would like to hear  
> what you have to say and see some examples. Here are some of mine.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/Vic/MV14.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/2shhcd
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/Vic/MV27.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/39kz8v
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/F2/J6.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/38x7x7
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/F2/Synchronised 
> +swimmers.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/27ua35
>
> This one on M8. I THINK it is my asph. I guess it could be Marty's  
> Nocti, but I don't think so.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/b_001/KI13.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/2nhp3g
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a11.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/3d4qoj
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a13.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/2o5x3n
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a24.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/2lms3d
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/2/S02.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/2jsm5d
>
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/2/S14.jpg.html>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ap5fv
>
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> The optic nazi.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
>
> I can't possibly come up with a "best 50" when each of them seems  
> to excel
> at SOMETHING. The perfect 50 might end up being like the proverbial  
> "camel
> is a horse designed by a committee".
>
> If speed is not a concern, it's the 50/3.5 Heliar
> If speed is a concern, it's the 50/1.4 Summilux (I admit to being  
> partial to
> the pre-asph).
> If speed is only sort of a concern, it's the 50/2 Planar
>
> And all of the other ones could be used to capture an award-winning  
> shot
> except maybe the 50/0.95 Canon (which I DON'T have).
>
> Jeffery
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 8:39 AM, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Oh he's shooting the non-asph Summilux for these ones. Made from  
>> old coke
>> bottles, I think. But he has the asph version as well. I
>> am constantly on a crusade to convince him that the asph is THE  
>> fifty to
>> use. Jeffery may chime in here ;-)
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
>>
>> Hoppy,
>>
>> I'm not too sure Steve likes the 50 Asph Summilux that much.  I  
>> think he
>> should just send it my way, I'll keep it warm for him.  ;-)
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" <
>> hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: --------------
>>
>>
>>> Number five at a gallop for me. The interaction by Iona MAKES the  
>>> image.
>> I might say that number one is more gently lit/exposed, however I  
>> stick with my first choice. Maybe a quibble with them that the
> highlight on granpa's head is blown as I see it here. Can
>  you extract any detail there and burn in a little maybe? BTW that  
> lens is gorgeous on the M8, but then you knew that.
>>> Cheers
>>> Hoppy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Steve Barbour
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 10:10
>>> To: Leica Users Group; LEG; MUG Users; LRF; A forum dedicated to the
>>> Picture-A-Week project
>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
>>>
>>> I need your input...
>>>
>>> I can 't decide which is the best single image here...
>>>
>>> it changes each time I look...
>>>
>>> so I would like to ask your opinion...which I greatly appreciate...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt1.jpg.html
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt3.jpg.html
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt4.jpg.html
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt5.jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>>> M8 Summilux 50mm 1.4 non ASPH...(latest fw)
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks for your thoughts,
>>>
>>> Steve
> -- 
> Jeffery L. Smith
> New Orleans, LA
>
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