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Subject: [Leica] December 2007 LUG Photo Contest results
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sun Jan 6 07:29:29 2008

My take on your comment was that you felt that what you saw as the essential
failing of the technical details negated the strength of the photo. But it's
certainly possible I misunderstood. It really doesn't matter though, because
this prompted an interesting discussion.


On 1/6/08 4:56 AM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:

> Hi B.D.,
> I agree with you, just not about the tonalities.
> Didn't I state that clearly then?
> Philippe
> 
> 
> Op 6-jan-08, om 02:11 heeft bd@bdcolenphoto.com het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> This is obviously what makes for horse races, Philippe. I think
>> this is a truly classic shot, capturing the deterioration of old
>> age, relationships, and caring. What you see as cluter, I see as
>> detail. What you see as gray and washed out,  I see as proper
>> tonality. It's a soft scene, with soft tones. I could see a bit of
>> cropping on the margins, but to me this lovely image is all about
>> the subject and the details.
>> B. D.
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 01:46:34
>> To:Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] December 2007 LUG Photo Contest results
>> 
>> 
>> Op 5-jan-08, om 21:17 heeft Brian Reid het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Somehow though the nature of  "contest" dampens comment and
>>>> discussion of entries, both before and after results are announced.
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll bite.
>>> 
>>> About this picture, which took second prize:
>>> 
>>> http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/McfR-1_5.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> I find it to be muddy and diffuse. The subject matter is indeed
>>> compelling, but the photograph just doesn't grab me. The patient's
>>> skin tones are almost the same color as the wall behind him, and
>>> the clutter distracts me.
>> 
>> I noticed it when going through last months entries after the
>> announcement of the winners, but for me, the content of the shot (I
>> love the scene) prevails above the technical aspects of it. The
>> latter being easier to improve: more contrast, some dodging and
>> burning. I suppose it's a rather flat scan of a greatly caught scene.
>> 
>> It must have been a difficult month to judge, though: a lot of
>> overall quality.
>> Philippe
>> 
>>> 
>>> Some of the judges are subscribed to the LUG; some are not. If you
>>> are a judge and you are tempted to reply to my comment please take
>>> care not to reveal yourself.
>>> 
>>> Brian Reid
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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