Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/01/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Steve, Well that maybe, but Tarek as a professional to professionsal he'll understand that it isn't just at him but a number of responses some people don't or wont listen to experience. If Tarek is upset I'll apologize. ted -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Steve Unsworth Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:08 AM To: LUG Group Subject: Re: [Leica] When in doubt ask photographer Ted, I'm sure you are aware that Tarek is also a professional with lots of experience of documentary photography. You're experience differs from his, big deal. He didn't resort to telling _you_ to 'get stuffed', if he had I'm sure you would have been up in arms about it. Steve On 13/1/08 14:40, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote: > Tarek Charara offered quite unmistakenly! > Subject: Re: [Leica] When in doubt ask photographer > > > >>> Ted,I think we are thinking this the other way around: it's not about the > photographer, it's about wether the subject is concentrated or not on what > he's doing. Believing the subject could "forget" that the photographer is in > the room or around him taking pictures, is just wrong.<<< > > Excuse me? > > I don't know what the hell is wrong with some of you people when you are > dealing with a photojournalist with over half century experience of working > in the fashion we're discussing. Then have the audacity to tell me I'm > WRONG!! :-( Get stuffed! > > I have nothing to gain by explaining to you exactly what these experiences > are, but you people are the ones who are wrong! Damn it if I sound angry I > bloody well am! > > When I explain to you of daily experience with published books to back it up > not to mention the assignments, do not tell me I'm wrong! > >>>> The photographer can be ignored, but that doesn't mean that the subject's > unconscious mind isn't aware of his presence and/or that the photographer > isn't altering the scene by his presence.<<< > > Look if you walk into a room and have 2 minutes to get some quick hit and > miss snap you maybe right. > > But what appears to be happening here is, you are not listening nor do you > understand the difference between a 2 minute hit and run compared to a 5 day > or 5 weeks day after day shooting in the environment of the subject or > subjects you're documenting. > > Your lack of understanding that it's possible to be there and not have > absolutely any influence on the subject or subjects is in direct ratio to > your inexperience! Certainly compared to a photojournalist of some merit in > this field regardless of the subject and time. > > Thank you all for listening, but for crying out loud get with the program > and listen to experience! > > Have a nice day! > > ted > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 1/12/2008 2:04 PM