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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: raimo.m.korhonen at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K)
Date: Mon Jan 28 08:40:00 2008
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Yes, we have at least two versions of what happened: 1) we have the name of 
the fallen soldier and an account by a person who was there and says that it 
was not staged. Then 2) we have two different accounts by a person who was 
not there and says thet it was staged - and some insist that we should 
believe the person who was not there.
I would suppose that if it really was staged, then someone who was there 
would have come out because the photograph is so famous.
Actually there is a 3rd possibility that Whelan suggest - the men did indeed 
play for Capa?s camera and it went terribly wrong as the enemy began 
shooting at them.
The fact that there are two different photos is not uncommon, many 
photographers do take several pictures at a same location. And the locations 
in the two photos are not exactly the same.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Ritter" <hlritter@bex.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again


> Strange that the the writer's painstaking research and cogitation  weren't 
> accompanied by even a passing question about how ONE  photographer 
> happened to snap the shutter at the moments of the deaths  of TWO 
> different soldiers within a few minutes at the VERY SAME SPOT  on a 
> hillside. Not a word of skepticism on this point! Uncritical  acceptance 
> of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,  irresponsible 
> journalism.
>
> To my mind, the second and lesser-known photograph is prima facie 
> evidence of several iterations of a staging. Unfortunately, this piece 
> does nothing to resolve the controversy.
>
> --howard
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Tarek Charara wrote:
>
>> There was this essay posted here a few months ago:
>>
>> <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html>
>>
>> For whatever it's worth... :^)
>>
>> All the best from the south of France!
>>
>> Tarek
>
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