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Subject: [Leica] collapsible lenses on the M8...?
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Sat Mar 1 09:53:47 2008
References: <p06230901c3eb5fb35f64@[10.1.16.131]> <F116E9DA-5B01-4B38-AC98-DBDABD0F6793@cox.net> <p06230903c3eb8d901f3f@[10.1.16.131]> <20080227235620.GB1232@panix.com> <p06230906c3ec8a67509f@[10.1.16.131]> <63D511A5-F2F8-442B-883D-4406DDFB85BF@comcast.net> <E7B5920C-6CFA-41C3-B418-366E401FD255@cox.net> <p06230908c3ecf8dc3410@[10.1.16.131]> <20080301160019.GC20362@panix.com> <67AD82BD-3179-428A-978E-43176849006D@comcast.net>

that's what so great about the LUG: it's indefatiguable sense of
hackerdom!

looking forward to hearing about it.

-rei

On Mar01 12:41, Leonard Taupier wrote:
> Rei,
> 
> I'm pretty sure the glass from a 39mm filter and the Summitar filter  
> is the same size. I'm not willing to take apart one of my Summitar  
> filters but I will buy a bargain one and remove the glass. Bargain  
> Summitar conical filters are in the $19-$20 range. Then I'll replace  
> the glass with one from a 39mm cut filter. I'll report here in a week  
> or so.
> 
> Len
> 
> On Mar 1, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Rei Shinozuka wrote:
> 
> >now the only question is how to get an IR cut version of the
> >summitar conical mount thread filter?
> >
> >BTW, for the old 35 summiluxers out there with the series filters
> >in the 12504 hood: as mentioned earlier on the lug, the leica 13412
> >E49 UV/IR filter fits perfectly backwards in the series filter holder
> >and is the perfect thickness not to rattle around in there.
> >
> >-rei
> >
> >On Feb28 15:54, Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>>how about the latest M Elmar 50mm 2.8 collapsible?
> >>>
> >>>thanks, Steve
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>It's just fine. As I mentioned before, All f/2.8 Elmars and all the
> >>f/2 collapsibles do not retract as far as the early f/3.5 Elmars.
> >>
> >>As I mentioned previously, only the 90/4 Elmar collapsible (the old
> >>one, not the new macro) is questionable. I don't have one available
> >>to test, but I think it extends furthest into the body when  
> >>retracted.
> >>
> >>So all other collapsibles are fine. All. And maybe the old 90/4 as  
> >>well.
> >>
> >>On the other hand, if you've collapsed your Noctilux by driving a car
> >>over it, things might not be OK whether or not you're trying to mount
> >>it on the M8.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Leonard Taupier wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I'm pretty sure Henning and certainly Jeffrey have more
> >>>>collapsible lenses then I do but here are the lenses that I have
> >>>>that are fine when collapsed in the M8.
> >>>>
> >>>>LTM 5cm/3.5 Elmar (made in 1946) this has the longest recess but
> >>>>still clears.
> >>>>LTM 50mm /2 Summicron (1955)
> >>>>LTM 50mm/ 2 Summitar (1949)
> >>>>LTM 5cm/2 Summar (1937)
> >>>>M 50mm/2 Summicron (1954)
> >>>>M 90mm/4 micro-Elmar (current model)
> >>>>
> >>>>Len
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>the old 50 summicron collapsible does.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-rei
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Feb27 14:01, Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>>>>>>At 12:45 PM -0700 2/27/08, Steve Barbour wrote:
> >>>>>>>>On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Anyone out there using collapsible lenses on their M8,  
> >>>>>>>>>>like me?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>so what do you use to keep them from collapsing?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Yeah, yeah....I know, rubber bands...so what else is out  
> >>>>>>>>>>there
> >>>>>>>>>>that will work,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>and guarantee that they won't collapse,  and screw the pooch?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Anything?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>thanks, Steve
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Just let them collapse. The only one that _might_ have a  
> >>>>>>>>>problem
> >>>>>>>>>is the 90/4 (I haven't tried that). All the others are fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>no kidding Henning... !  We are under the false ! impression
> >>>>>>>>(created by Leica) that you can't use collapsibles on the  
> >>>>>>>>M8....
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>thanks, Steve
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi Steve,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I checked clearances early on, and the only lens I have that I
> >>>>>>>wouldn't put on the M8 is my Hologon. Even the old  
> >>>>>>>collapsible Nickel
> >>>>>>>Elmar I tried recently can be collapsed and still have about 4mm
> >>>>>>>clearance. The 2.8 Elmars and f/2 lenses don't collapse as  
> >>>>>>>much, so
> >>>>>>>there is even more clearance from the shutter.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hi Rei,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The old Summicron does what? Collapse as much as the Nickel
> >>>>>Elmar? I don't think so; the travel of the barrel into the body is
> >>>>>less. In any case, there is no problem collapsing the lens into
> >>>>>the M8.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Henning
> >>>>>
> >>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>Leica Users Group.
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> >>>>>information
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>Leica Users Group.
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> >>>>information
> >>>
> >>>with warm regards,  Steve Barbour
> >>>
> >>>"I never wanted to be famous" will be published soon.
> >>>
> >>>kididdoc@cox.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>-- 
> >>   *            Henning J. Wulff
> >>  /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
> >> /###\   mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com
> >> |[ ]|     http://www.archiphoto.com
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Leica Users Group.
> >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> >-- 
> >Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
> >Ridgewood, New Jersey
> >
> >
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> 
> 
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-- 
Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey


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