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Subject: [Leica] M8 question #2: Barcoding lenses
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Mon Nov 24 06:49:18 2008
References: <1793298543.2301061227499154836.JavaMail.root@mail02.pantherlink.uwm.edu> <8CC00053-B96C-46C2-901F-28C0FBBA6FD0@verizon.net> <41987DA0722547C4A9DE9A728383FF8A@Joseph> <E8D80AF6-4534-42E8-B4D4-0A2B667A5197@verizon.net> <3565E85F-E4EE-4180-AE77-FF877FA0353E@btinternet.com>

This is not correct Frank, according to the Instruction book, you can use
the lens, but it does not provide accurate metering.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Frank Dernie
<Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>wrote:

> I have not tried my 21mm SA on my M8 since it is one of the lenses on the
> list that won't work with the M8. Whether this is because it causes an
> internal clash or blocks off the meter cell I do not know. OTOH it has an
> exit pupil extremely close to the image plane so will be -much- more
> susceptible to the acute angle effects than other lenses, and the 
> correction
> for the 21mm Elmarit, whether normal or asph, is unlikely to be correct.
> FWIW.
> Frank
>
>
> On 24 Nov, 2008, at 14:02, Leonard Taupier wrote:
>
>  Hello Joseph,
>>
>> I don't have the 21mm SA lens but if I did this is what I would do.
>>
>> First make sure the 21mm SA lens will not interfere with the M8.
>>
>> In the M8 the 21mm Elmarit brings up the 28/90 mm frame lines. I would
>> order one of these LTM to M adapters from John Milich which are machined
>> woth slots to be coded. Leica has released two codes for the 21mm, Asph 
>> and
>> non Asph. I would try and find out which of these two lenses more closely
>> matches the vignetting properties of the 21mm SA and code my new adapter
>> that way. The 21mm SA uses either a 48mm filter or a series VII filter. 
>> B+W
>> makes a 48mm UV/IR filter and Leica has announced they will have a Ser 
>> VII.
>> Most likely the M8 will do a fair job of correcting the vignetting and 
>> cyan
>> creep but if it's close what little correction is needed should be able to
>> be corrected by PS.
>>
>> You will need to use an external 28mm viewfinder for proper framing with
>> the M8. Or you can use the full view of the M8 finder which is slightly
>> wider then when using a 24mm lens.
>>
>> If anyone has done this or uses the 21mm SA on the M8 please let us know
>> how it works out. Henning?
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Joseph Low wrote:
>>
>>  What about the SA 21/3.4 on the M8 ?
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+joelct=singnet.com.sg@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+joelct <lug-bounces%2Bjoelct>=singnet.com.sg@
>>> leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Leonard Taupier
>>> Sent: Monday, 24 November, 2008 1:40 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 question #2: Barcoding lenses
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> I use many Leica LTM lenses on my M8 going back to those made in the
>>> 30's. However none are wider then 35mm so I don't worry about coding.
>>> When used on the M8 I do use a UV/IR filter. Most of the very old
>>> lenses use an A36 push on filter. I have a Leitz push on A36 adapter
>>> that uses the special Summitar filter. I made a special Summitar
>>> filter that uses the filter glass from a 39mm UV/IR filter mounted in
>>> an old Summitar filter frame. Other then that special case there are
>>> UV/IR filters available from B+W or Heliopan for all sizes. I only
>>> have two lenses that are not made by Leica, a 35mm Jupiter 12 and a
>>> Konica 50mm. They both take a 40.5 mm filter which I have a Heliopan
>>> UV/IR for.  The 50mm f1.5 Summarit and Xenon use a 41mm filter. For
>>> those two I use a 41-> 46 step up ring and a 46mm filter.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote:
>>>
>>>  Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 question #2: Barcoding lenses
>>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>> This discussion makes me wonder: are any of you M8 owners
>>>> using older, non-Leitz lenses on it?  If I were ever able to afford
>>>> an M8, I would need to use my LTM Nikkor and Canon lenses
>>>> as well as my 1960's era Leitz glass on it.  I couldn't get a body
>>>> AND new lenses.
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
>>>> UPAA POY 1978
>>>> University Information Technology Services
>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Sonny
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Replies: Reply from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest) ([Leica] OT: Greater Philadelphia LUGgers)
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