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Subject: [Leica] Re: Unbelievable
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sat Dec 20 23:53:45 2008
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Frank,
Are you saying the demand for the M8 is price inelastic? My view is that it
may well be today, in the present economic climate, but at introduction,
when the Leica cachet would have sold easily, a lower price would have
translated into a larger installed base by now. I really hope that the S2
system does well, considering the recession in the midst of which it will be
born...
Cheers
Jayanand

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Frank Dernie
<Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>wrote:

> My opinion is that the market is so small for a digi-rangefinder that none
> will ever fly off the shelves. If the sales had been good enough to pay for
> the development of the camera and a bit of profit the service would have
> been good and there would have been RD2 and RD3 by now. Cosina/Voigtlander
> would have continued if Epson did not.
> IMO the opinion that the M8 is overpriced profiteering is mistaken. At the
> market size for such a product the volume they produce will always be tiny
> and the tooling and R&D costs have to be amortised over a few units. It
> could well be a loss leader to sell more lenses :-)
> Frank
>
>
>
> On 20 Dec, 2008, at 23:32, Richard Man wrote:
>
>  The alignment problem is exaggerated. It was very easy to fix by oneself.
>> If
>> they price is at $1500 to $2000, it may have flown off the shelves.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Harrison McClary <lists@mcclary.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  If it had not had all the problems I read about then I'd have gotten one.
>>> But the stories about poor rangefinder alignment, and things like that
>>> kept
>>> me away...also it was not exactly in the category I was taking about, if
>>> I
>>> remember it was around 3 grand new.  They are still 1500 used or so...I'd
>>> rather save a few more pennies and get a used M8 with all I have hear
>>> about
>>> the RD1.  Now had the RD1 been a decent camera with good customer
>>> support...that'd have made a difference to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com
>> // b: http://richardfman.wordpress.com
>>
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