Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Frank, one of my friends is a commercial/fashion photographer. You > have no idea how much money is spent on the photographs in a full- > page ad or double-page spread that is to appear in a magazine like > Cosmopolitan or Vanity Fair (I am not talking about my friend's > fees, but about the total cost of the shoot). The cost of an S2 is > petty cash in comparison. I agree that there is another world out there Nathan, since the S2 is a Leica it's appropriate to discuss it here... But in so many ways it's removed from our needs and our customary LUG world...it is entirely remote from our photographic needs, interests, goals, experience, finances, not to mention the qualities that brought us to the LUG... I would estimate that if you can buy, need, use, pay for an S2...reading the LUG is furthest thing from your mind...(even though often fun and informative...) When we say "go take pictures" that doesn't mean go to your studio, to shoot models for Vanity Fair.... Why get our undies in a bunch over a camera that realistically few need, can afford, or will ever use.... which stands for a way of creating pictures that would make M. HCB turn over in his grave...? Steve > > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Frank Filippone wrote: > >> My $0.02 >> >> Why would a Industrial customer ( including a magazine) want superb >> image >> quality when the images to be printed, in a magazine or newspaper, >> are >> 8x11? Or even 17x11 ( double page spread) ? Good enough is good >> enough.... and spending more on something no one can see nor the >> printer can >> print is downright wasteful. Corporations are not into waste. >> Portrait >> Pros? How many portraits ( % of the total portrait market, including >> wedding ) go bigger than 8x10/11x14 and demand quality above the >> big time >> Canon or Nikon cameras? Not much. >> >> ( I will not mention the fact that for really great, really HIGH end >> photography, there still is Film in sizes to 11x14...... ). >> >> I think that the market for the S2 is only one.... well heeled >> amateurs. >> And Leica is going after them.......... >> >> All the hoopla about extra superb image quality is probably true, >> and the >> Pro attitude is to convince amateurs that they can achieve that >> "quality of >> a Pro" by using the S2. All of which may be true. But to be >> really true, >> the Pros would NEED to use the S2 in their jobs. >> >> I doubt it.... >> >> We have a bunch of pros on this list.... how many of you NEED to >> use the top >> rated Hasselblad or Sinar, or whatever cameras to produce images your >> customer base requires? Canon and Leica DMR or M8 and Nikon need not >> respond...... you are the "normal" quality...... >> >> The difference is perception vs need. >> >> Pros... how about a reasonable assessment of your customer >> base......?????? >> >> Need or perception? What percentage demand quality above all >> else? Cost be >> of secondary importance..........by far...... >> >> Frank Filippone >> red735i@earthlink.net >> >> >> Steve , in my opinion, the purpose of the S2 is to offer a superb >> medium >> format LEICA system at the top of the quality tree for pros. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information