Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]re high ISO, the argument seems to be...more is better... I am not so sure it's needed no matter how nice it would be... with f1.4 or f1, ISO's of 800-1200 are quite fine.... but then, more ISO is like more money... not too many see reasons to be against it, Steve On Aug 19, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Richard Man wrote: > I agree we will all be shooting at ISO 128K at some points. For Leica > shooters? I don't know, may be in 5 - 10 years. Canonites and Nikonites are > doing them now, but Leica has different priorities. > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> I think the issue is with both the Nikon D3 and the Leica M9 camera bodies >> is that they are not stuck in time but going to progress and soon as >> sensors >> progress which they do every day. The iso ranges on both cameras are going >> nowhere but up and soon as will every other parameter of image quality. As >> will our abilities to process the images they've made in the past which >> had >> noise issues. So both hardware and software progress as is out abilities >> to >> use them. We are more on top of it. >> Sensor development has not reached an impasse or plateau. It is furiously >> on >> the upswing. >> >> The idea that we don't need higher ISO's is a bit daft. >> We are going to get them and we are going to use them. Gratefully. >> With better sensors come better cameras. And with that come better >> photographs made by better photographers. >> >> And the issue is certainly not when we need to call these cameras a D4 or >> M10. They can use fractions and hyphens and letters instead of big fat >> round >> numbers. >> Every day in every way we are getting better and better. >> The time to get a new camera body is never now. Its next year. >> The problem is when are you going to want to take a picture? >> >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> mark at rabinergroup.com >> >> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:49:45 -0700 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] a shot in the dark - life at iso 25600 >>> >>> Mark (well actually to everyone else since you do not read my posts), >>> everything is a trade off, because if not, well, then you will have a D3 >>> that shoots at ISO128K or a D3X that shoots at 24 megapixels. Right now, >>> Nikon is in a bind to improve on either body. >>> >>> The question isn't whether everyone will be shooting at ISO128K *at some >>> points*, but what do Leica users want, or need from Leica and what can >> Leica >>> *reasonably* made in response to the market pull given their current >>> operating strategy and marketing conditions. >>> >>> And the answer will probably not include ISO128K in the next digital M. >>> Probably very usable ISO1600 and usable 3200. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous > replies in your msgs. ] > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information