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Subject: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 Belstaff Leica M8/M9 camera bag
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:55:15 +0530
References: <CB89FF43-58AC-4605-9B0D-9C21E6B03F7D@btinternet.com> <C8E56EB0.54C7%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,
Both Cotton Canvas and Synthetic Canvas (FibreNyte - which is 100%
synthetic), depending on the bag:

http://www.billingham.co.uk/acatalog/Materials.html

Cheers
Jayanand

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> Billingham bags look great but feel terrible it ruins it for me, Frank!
> They feel like polyester only because they ARE polyester. a cotton
> polyester
> blend The emphasis being on the polyester. I really think its 80% poly 20%
> cotton. My fingertips have preppy sensors. To me that's just plan odd and a
> truly misplaced choice on their part sure it makes the bag lighter and not
> fade and do better in the wash but if you put a short stack of filters in
> there it gets rid of any difference in the weight department and there is
> nothing more annoying than a bag which always looks new. Never fades or
> ages. To me that's not a bag that's formaldehyde with straps and a handle.
>
> Fogg bags are all cotton. Feel great. Fade and shrink wonderfully.
> Just like Domke bags are. cotton canvas. Thick. The semi stiffness acts in
> a
> way like padding even though its not.
>
> Billingham bags are ubiquitous with rich guy types they can be acquired at
> the usual suspect outlets.
> Fogg bags are centered in the UK and require some doing to figure out how
> to
> grab onto over here in the US. They also cost twice as much.
> And are also it looks to me designed twice better. And have better names.
>
> I'm hard on Billingham bags. But this hardness comes from my reaction to
> people who think they are the be all and end all in a luxury camera bag.
> They've just NOT done their homework. And people should always do their
> homework. THEN go out and play.
>
> But I have a  Billingham 300 bag I got used for 99 bucks used and as it was
> in Oregon no tax or license. Its comparable to the 555 they sell now which
> goes for 555 bucks give or take.
> I can pack lunch for a week in it and have room left over for all kinds of
> cameras plus a spare pair of socks and long sleeve shirt.
> Who needs a car and an apartment when you've got this camera bag?
> Its not a life style its a life.
> With a savings of 444 bucks I can deal with the polyester. Just don't tell
> Caroline Kennedy.
> And this size a bag if it was heavy cotton canvas like a Domke that would
> add a few real pounds to it. So maybe I got off easy. But wish it was black
> not rich guy tan.
>
> Gear is like clothing it all starts with the fabric. If the cut is good
> than
> that's nice too.
>
>
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>
>
>
> > From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:39 +0100
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850
> Belstaff
> > Leica M8/M9 camera bag
> >
> > I own 2 Fogg bags, a B-Laika and a backpack. They are the best quality
> bags I
> > own, with a beautiful finish and effective padding which is not bulky,
> unlike
> > many maker's.
> > The B-Laika is old now and battered but holds up well. The backpack is
> newer
> > and made for me by be and Nigel whilst there was no UK distibutor, a
> level of
> > personal service which is IME un-paralleled.
> > OTOH you are a bit harsh on Billingham ;-)
> > I have one of the original Billinghams, un-named since they only made one
> > photo bag then. It also is battered, has stood up well and has non-bulky
> > padding.
> > The most disappointing bags for me have been Crumpler. I love their web
> site
> > and the multiple choices of size and colour, but the stiff straps,
> excessive
> > velcro and thick padding make them too inconvenient to use for me.
> > FD
> >
> > On 21 Oct, 2010, at 00:21, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >
> >> Fogg bags make Billingham bags look like Kmart specials.
> >>
> >> http://www.foggspecialistbags.com/range.htm
> >
> >
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