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Subject: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 Belstaff Leica M8/M9 camera bag
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:30:09 +0530
References: <AANLkTimd=Uo-z1BgdmmntxQnrh+OuU21bkF=zSruXVns@mail.gmail.com> <C8E58468.54DF%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,
Well, nobody is asking you to wear FibreNyte!!!
Cheers
Jayanand

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> In the US the preppies do not wear polyester. They don't wear polyester
> blends. Some don't ever go into a room in which there was ever any
> polyester. That does not get past the bicycle room.
> In Europe all these years the well appointed people from what I hear have
> never heard of this. They've been wearing  poly from the get go all through
> the 80's and 90s but have often called it other names. Microfiber. Now
> FibreNyte it seems. And they are Dukes and Earls Princes. People give them
> the time of day.
> I search engined FibreNyte and all I get is Billingham. Can only guess
> its their word for microfiber. Which is our word for real nice polyester.
> Which is like saying real nice cow turds.
> Polyester makes me sweat. When I touch it it is oddly dry and dead. When
> you
> wash it you wonder if it really got wet. I'm a cotton guy. Wool even.
> Fabrics which live and breath. Canvas it said was originally made from not
> cotton but hemp. I'm ok with plants. Not keen on the chemistry lab making
> the fabrics of my life.
>
>
>
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
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> mark at rabinergroup.com
>
>
>
> > From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:55:15 +0530
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850
> Belstaff
> > Leica M8/M9 camera bag
> >
> > Mark,
> > Both Cotton Canvas and Synthetic Canvas (FibreNyte - which is 100%
> > synthetic), depending on the bag:
> >
> > http://www.billingham.co.uk/acatalog/Materials.html
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Billingham bags look great but feel terrible it ruins it for me, Frank!
> >> They feel like polyester only because they ARE polyester. a cotton
> >> polyester
> >> blend The emphasis being on the polyester. I really think its 80% poly
> 20%
> >> cotton. My fingertips have preppy sensors. To me that's just plan odd
> and a
> >> truly misplaced choice on their part sure it makes the bag lighter and
> not
> >> fade and do better in the wash but if you put a short stack of filters
> in
> >> there it gets rid of any difference in the weight department and there
> is
> >> nothing more annoying than a bag which always looks new. Never fades or
> >> ages. To me that's not a bag that's formaldehyde with straps and a
> handle.
> >>
> >> Fogg bags are all cotton. Feel great. Fade and shrink wonderfully.
> >> Just like Domke bags are. cotton canvas. Thick. The semi stiffness acts
> in
> >> a
> >> way like padding even though its not.
> >>
> >> Billingham bags are ubiquitous with rich guy types they can be acquired
> at
> >> the usual suspect outlets.
> >> Fogg bags are centered in the UK and require some doing to figure out
> how
> >> to
> >> grab onto over here in the US. They also cost twice as much.
> >> And are also it looks to me designed twice better. And have better
> names.
> >>
> >> I'm hard on Billingham bags. But this hardness comes from my reaction to
> >> people who think they are the be all and end all in a luxury camera bag.
> >> They've just NOT done their homework. And people should always do their
> >> homework. THEN go out and play.
> >>
> >> But I have a  Billingham 300 bag I got used for 99 bucks used and as it
> was
> >> in Oregon no tax or license. Its comparable to the 555 they sell now
> which
> >> goes for 555 bucks give or take.
> >> I can pack lunch for a week in it and have room left over for all kinds
> of
> >> cameras plus a spare pair of socks and long sleeve shirt.
> >> Who needs a car and an apartment when you've got this camera bag?
> >> Its not a life style its a life.
> >> With a savings of 444 bucks I can deal with the polyester. Just don't
> tell
> >> Caroline Kennedy.
> >> And this size a bag if it was heavy cotton canvas like a Domke that
> would
> >> add a few real pounds to it. So maybe I got off easy. But wish it was
> black
> >> not rich guy tan.
> >>
> >> Gear is like clothing it all starts with the fabric. If the cut is good
> >> than
> >> that's nice too.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------
> >> Mark William Rabiner Photography
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
> >> mark at rabinergroup.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:39 +0100
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850
> >> Belstaff
> >>> Leica M8/M9 camera bag
> >>>
> >>> I own 2 Fogg bags, a B-Laika and a backpack. They are the best quality
> >> bags I
> >>> own, with a beautiful finish and effective padding which is not bulky,
> >> unlike
> >>> many maker's.
> >>> The B-Laika is old now and battered but holds up well. The backpack is
> >> newer
> >>> and made for me by be and Nigel whilst there was no UK distibutor, a
> >> level of
> >>> personal service which is IME un-paralleled.
> >>> OTOH you are a bit harsh on Billingham ;-)
> >>> I have one of the original Billinghams, un-named since they only made
> one
> >>> photo bag then. It also is battered, has stood up well and has
> non-bulky
> >>> padding.
> >>> The most disappointing bags for me have been Crumpler. I love their web
> >> site
> >>> and the multiple choices of size and colour, but the stiff straps,
> >> excessive
> >>> velcro and thick padding make them too inconvenient to use for me.
> >>> FD
> >>>
> >>> On 21 Oct, 2010, at 00:21, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Fogg bags make Billingham bags look like Kmart specials.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.foggspecialistbags.com/range.htm
> >>>
> >>>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Your photos would be better if you had this $850 Belstaff Leica M8/M9 camera bag)
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