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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Flair - Edit for Ted + thanks all
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:28:59 +0100
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Philippe,

Wonderful, really wonderful, I prefer this one too

Amiti?s
Lluis


El 31/10/2010, a las 10:05, <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> <philippe.amard at 
sfr.fr 
 > escribi?:

>
>
> I think this is what Ted had in mind.
> And was in the file ;-)
> No hard feelings here.
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Barcelona+2009_001/Flair-To+Ted-1020246.jpg.html
>
>
> This edit is just full auto in LR with a slight touch of contrast  
> added and a click on clarity - as when using a more contrasty paper  
> in the darkroom.
>
>
> A very different snap for sure ;-)
> The lens performed as it should, I think.
> But both flare and  "flair" are lost.
>
>
> Thanks to all who viewed and commented.
>
>
> Bien amicalement
> Philippe
>
>
>
>
> Message du : 31/10/2010
> De : tedgrant at shaw.ca
> A : leicareflex at freelists.org
> Copie ? :
> Sujet : [LRflex] Re: IMG: Flair
>
>
>
> From:
>
> To: "Leica-Reflex"
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:21 PM
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: IMG: Flair
>
>
> Philippe mon ami,
> I know there will be people who will get on my back for saying what  
> I'm
> about to say as  critique of this photograph.
>
> Let's put this in it's correct perspective! ..... "the flair is a  
> mistake
> because light flaired off the lens and should have been deleted or  
> thrown
> away!"   And right there is the photographic truth! :-(
>
> You know it, I know it and so should everybody else! If I had taken  
> this I'd
> have been completely devastated due to the flair!! Certainly with  
> myself for
> not picking up the flair at the time of the exposure.
>
> However, it happened. But I'd have never posted it because I'd have  
> put it
> in the garbage! PERIOD! We can make all the excuses for trying to  
> fix it and
> or why it happened, but that doesn't make it right. It was an error in
> exposure and should've been deleted.. And yes it has wonderful  
> potential as
> a very interesting photograph! If taken without the flair! Using a  
> Lens
> shade or whatever shading cutting the light entering the lens at the  
> wrong
> angle!
>
> And that's a photographic fact, not my making it up! We all have  
> things like
> this happen! :-(
>
> We have any number of members trying to "fix it" with contrast or  
> whatever,
> which of course it needs or something else. But if exposed without  
> the lens
> flair it wouldn't require the posts on, "HOW TO FIX IT!" It can't  
> be! As
> it'll never look as great as it would've been without the flair at the
> moment of the initial exposure!
>
> You are absolutely correct, the light is beautiful! I have no  
> problem with
> that because behind the "flair" one can see great photo potential  
> with the
> back lighting! But the lens flair kills the photograph completely.  
> And given
> the number of posts "attempting to make it work" or praise of a lens  
> error
> only proves it didn't work. The more attempts at fixing it only  
> prove  a
> lens flair occurred and ruined the photo right at the moment of  
> exposure....
> so throw it away. Like people say... "crap happens" ! So don't mess  
> with it,
> sigh quietly and forget about it and hope you find a better one on  
> another
> day!
>
> Look we all have this kind of light flair happen at sometime in our
> photographic lives. It usually happens when it's a wonderful photo  
> moment.
> The exposure happens, the sun or backlight flairs through the lens,  
> the
> moment is lost. That's life. :-(
>
> Fiddling with it only makes it worse and more frustrating because we  
> truly
> know in our hearts we unfortunately have lost what would have been a
> beautiful photograph if shot without the flair!
>
> cheers,
> ted.
>
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