Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Amateurs rent cameras too! -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ mark at rabinergroup.com Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:16:36 +0100 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 success (or lack thereof) > > Thanks for the tip Mark, > > I'll do that as soon as I retire and get a real job as tax heavened > pro photog ;-) > > OTT I meant shiFt and not shi.t ... really sorry > > Got to drive 100 miles in snow now - been snowing all morning > > Amiti?s > Philippe > > > Le 20 d?c. 10 ? 12:56, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > >> >> Why not rent one for the weekend if you can think of something you >> really >> need to shoot with it? Medium format digital cameras are rented I >> think more >> than bought. Write it off somehow as an expense!?!? >> >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> mark at rabinergroup.com >> Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb >> >> >> >> >>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:49:47 +0100 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 success (or lack thereof) >>> >>> Agreed Douglas, >>> >>> I said quite a while ago that Leica needed a paradigm shit if they >>> were to survive and prosper. >>> Now the move they've made doesn't suit me, what can I do ... >>> >>> But they will always find Davos dwellers, Rolex, Veyron, and cruising >>> ships owners who will want an S2. >>> All the better for them all. >>> >>> Were I one of them, I'd give it a try, and sell it if not convenient >>> Well sell? why? no need to get through the ordeal of doing so. >>> My time is more precious to me. >>> Just forget about it. >>> >>> >>> In the meantime, I hope I will anyhow enjoy viewing some beautiful >>> results some day :-) >>> >>> Frohe Weihnachten >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> Le 20 d?c. 10 ? 11:48, Douglas Sharp a ?crit : >>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> the fact is that Leica have been absolutely overwhelmed by the >>>> success of the M9 and the S2. The are working their wotsits off >>>> trying to catch up with an order backlog like they've never seen >>>> before. It doesn't matter one iota who is buying the gear - if it >>>> is making Leica a going concern, we can all be happy. Leica is doing >>>> a lot of PR trying to make the S2 better known to professionals (at >>>> least in Germany, so far) and has, as yet, had only positive >>>> feedback - even down to things like how long you can shoot with one >>>> battery charge. >>>> >>>> Maybe lots of potentates and oligarchs are buying it, but so what - >>>> the more S2s there are out there, the more people become aware of it >>>> and the brand, and more will be ordered and sold. >>>> >>>> As to the M9Ti, the book that's included with it states clearly that >>>> it is Leica's "concept car" and has features that could be employed >>>> in later models. >>>> >>>> The new design is clear, simple and unostentatious - precisely what >>>> Leicas have been right from the word go - maybe purists don't like >>>> it, but purists even shied away from the idea of a digital Leica R >>>> (sacrilege!!)at first, and when they didn't get one (R10), they all >>>> started moaning. >>>> >>>> Is there a better way of paying for your R+D costs? I doubt it. A >>>> very clever move by Leica, and one that highlights their joint >>>> sponsoring efforts with the VW Group (and Audi as a premium brand) >>>> e.g. http://www.sbc2010.de/ It's pretty obvious where their target >>>> groups are - and it's not us. >>>> >>>> Leica are getting their products placed in the rarified atmosphere >>>> of premium events like this and are accessing the segments where >>>> money is no object. >>>> >>>> Good for Leica! Their radical turnaround project has worked >>>> (although a gamble) and the company is on a relatively firm >>>> financial footing for what is, after all, a very small company. They >>>> still have quite a way to go, and I, for one, wish them well. >>>> >>>> It is perhaps interesting to note that what turned Leica around was >>>> the fact that they declined to produce what Leicaphiles were asking >>>> for and went their own way for a change. >>>> >>>> Maybe dyed-in-the-wool Leicaphiles are what was holding them back - >>>> now they've thrown this age-old conservatism out of the window they >>>> seem to be back and doing rather well. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Douglas >>>> >>>> On 20.12.2010 11:07, Richard Man wrote: >>>>> Come on guys. I know no one controls where a thread goes, but do we >>>>> have to >>>>> hijack it to yet another rant against M9Ti or whatever horse$hit >>>>> that >>>>> someone happens not to like? >>>>> >>>>> My conjecture is that just based on some random but imho educated >>>>> guesses, >>>>> the S2 will do all right by Leica. No one has either call BS on it >>>>> or agree >>>>> to it, but yet another tangential rant. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> NO ARCHIVE >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > NO ARCHIVE > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information