Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/12/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]We have a standing joke of "Small Matter of Programming." :-) How difficult can it be, just some algorithms and data structures :-) On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > Hmm, in military aviation sytems integrations.we had a standing joke (from > a > "technical expert") that 'it's just a bit of sheet metal work and a simple > software change". It never is of course. > The point I was making since Richard talked about other 24x36 CMOS sensors > is that both the M9 sensor and the required firmware are unique. > Leica Camera and Jenoptik might disagree with you that the firmware > differences are trivial. Or offer you a job. There's some millions of euro > in it. > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 22 December 2010 16:40, Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > I was in the Semiconductor Industry...... Usually , the technology used > to > > make a product rarely effects the way the device is used (SW) from the > > outside of the device.... Sure, there are some different "rules" or ways > > of > > making it work, but in general, the function and purpose and end goal > > determines the SW, not the technology..... > > > > "Trivial" is pretty relative.... > > > > The purpose of the SW is to take the data presented by the sensor output > > and > > format it to the memory location called the SDHC Card. In the process, > the > > data may be filtered in different ways, JPEG'd ( which in itself is a > > special filter), or maybe transformed to another color or spatial system > or > > a combination of any or all of these. > > > > Whether you use a CCD or a CMOS Image sensor, the process is the same. > > Implementation is different, but that is both the trivial ( difference) > > part > > as well as the "Secret Ingredients" part. I personally think Nikon has > > done a superb job with their "secret ingredients" in high ISO > performance. > > > > Geoff,,,,, in your response, you actually agree with what I am saying, in > > the technical sense. More instructions to do more pixels is "trivial", > > It > > is really not different, just more of the same..... Using 2 processors > > rather than one is also a pretty "trivial" exercise and totally > independent > > from the technology used to make the sensor.. > > > > " To provide a plain and neutral image, we do a lot of complex > > compensation, > > sensor corrections and lens vigentting corrections"... Would have been > > needed whether they used a CCD or a CMOS sensor, just "different" > > algorithms > > or implementations.......to achieve the image goal. > > > > I do not want to make it sound like all of this is easy.... it certainly > is > > not. But don't go around thinking that because it is CCD or CMOS that > > there is massively more work to write the SW ( Actually FW, but who is > > going > > to be fussy in a name). for one over the other. It is the same goal in > > either case. It is just different. > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > Red735i at earthlink.net > > > > > > Do you work in the industry with direct experience? > > > > I don't, but I know enough that it's not trivial change. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]