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Subject: [Leica] what are the most important aspects of a photographicimage?
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:18:48 -0800
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NOW DON'T GET MEAN! ;-) They complitment each ther! ;-)

I'LL do a serious look at the book as I know the LUZ Gallery who represent 
my photos have copies of AA's books for sale. I shall let you know my 
reaction. :-)

Without an ounce of the photojournalism neurons turned on. :-) Quietly in 
good viewing light! :-)

cheers,
ted
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] what are the most important aspects of a 
photographicimage?


> Dear Dr Ted, maybe you saw the Ansel landscapes after the moonshine 
> overdose
> incident!!!!
> Yes his famous works are not photojournalism nor decisive moments but 
> those
> rocks and fern stir my soul more than any other subject!
> Still that HCB fellow was not impressed either and commented on AA's work,
> suggesting that only the human condition was worthy of being photographed
> Get yourself a copy of "Yosemite and the High Sierra" and take your time
> with it somewhere undisturbed. I challenge you to be unmoved!
> Heck I may have to move your Sleeping Cowboy print to a different wall 
> away
> from my Thunderstorm, Yosemite Valley print! ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
> On 6 January 2011 03:07, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Well I've never  been a big fan of AA and his zone sytem . But please let
>> me say.... "I'll take your landsapes over his in the blink of an eye! 
>> WHY!
>>
>> AA's are merely big piles of rocks and ferns as sterile as a neutered 
>> Monk!
>>
>> Yours on the other hand? They are alive, are awesome and just plain old
>> fashion "damn that's a beautiful photograph!"  They bring life and
>> inspiration for any landscape shooter!!
>>
>> I like shooting landscapess, but I do them as a time for relaxation while
>> coming down from some hard ass assignment of long hour days! It's trully 
>> an
>> R&R time for me. I turn off my bionic ears and I'm basically in a world 
>> of
>> silence with the land and my cameras.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:28 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] what are the most important aspects of a
>> photographicimage?
>>
>>
>> Curious if folks feel that applies to landscapes too...
>> Are the majority of impactful landscape photos BW or color? or both?
>>
>> I don't know if it's right to leave Adams out of the mix as he 
>> essentially
>> has
>> defined landscape photography for our generation. Maybe try to think of
>> more
>> recent landscape images that have impacted you.
>>
>> Just curious as one who concentrates more on landscape photography...
>> Bob
>> Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 7:57:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] what are the most important aspects of a 
>> photographic
>> image?
>>
>> From PhotoQuotes.com:
>>>
>>
>> TED GRANT
>> father of Canadian Photojournalism
>>
>> When you photograph a man in color, you photograph his clothes. When you
>> photograph a man in B&W, you photograph his soul. - Ted
>> Grant<http://www.photoquotes.com/showquotes.aspx?id=525&name=Grant,Ted>
>> - a famous Canadian photographer
>>
>>
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Craig Semetko <csemetko at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I am selling b&w work, and from what i've seen in galleries many are
>>> selling b&w as well. And Tina and Ted have chimed in that they are too.
>>>
>>> For the most part, for my type of photography, I just like B&W better. 
>>> To
>>> me, it seems to have more gravitas. I'm shooting both film and digital 
>>> but
>>> converting most digital to B&W with silver efex pro. It just seems to 
>>> look
>>> more timeless to me. Three of my images, I think, in my upcoming show at
>>> the
>>> Leica Gallery in NYC are converted M8 and M9 files. If I processed them
>>> well, it's just about impossible to tell the prints from silver gelatin.
>>>
>>> craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:11 PM, lug-request at leica-users.org wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Really whose making and selling recently made black and white
>>>>
>>>>> photography?
>>>>> On the LUG we have Craig Semetko.
>>>>> But I believe Crag is the exception not the rule.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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