Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Standing out is good. I don't mind standing out. I guess what I'm saying is it seemed more natural to shoot black and white pre year 2000. And it seems more natural to shoot color now. Naturalness is good. In the past color darkrooms were a pain and the results you'd get with them would fade but in the last years of film dominance the galleries were not shy of filling walls with them. And they supposedly don't fade like they used to. All that perhaps needs to happen to change some of this is for Adobe software to have the stuff in it that nikon software has.. that they want you to pay for does. All kinds of black and white settings that you can put in at the time of shooting. See in the back of your camera. Then also see when it pops up big on your computer screen at the time of, rating, editing and tweaking. I would just expect that to happen soon. Because the Adobe raw filter is going to remain the standard and the norm. And when it does happen perhaps I'll be changing my tune. And shooting and printing more black and white. Another thing is that color inkjet is a top ranked front row for sure process for color printing. While black and white inkjets this is less the solid case over silver gelatin prints. I think its a tossup between the two. I'd very much rather an inkjet than a Cibachrome or C print. Or any other common color darkroom processes I can think of. For such rarities as a Fresson print or Dye transfer who knows? -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ mark at rabinergroup.com Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > From: Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:57:52 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] What are the most important aspects of a photographic > image? > > But isn't this a great argument for fine honing one's skill in B&W, as to > stand out? :-) > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> Used for what? though as I've not been making this clear nor has anyone >> else. >> Shooting for the media we sure see mainly color. >> Shooting for the fine art gallery market I think its a toss up. With color >> advancing over black and white. >> I'm not sure about what other important categories there might be. >> Commercial photography? Very little black and white at this point. >> Portrait photography? Ten percent for those artsy people. >> What else? >> Promotional >> Fashion >> Event >> Interiors >> Industrial >> Theatrical >> >> Less and less black and white I'm seeing. >> As less and less stuff is for print. Which cost more for 4 color. And more >> and more stuff is for internet. Which is all color. >> >> I did walk into my apartment building last night and there was a newspaper >> on the floor in the mail area and the cover shot was black and white. It >> was the NY Times. So people are still seeing breaking news in black and >> white. >> >> And I think a basic issue is they don't make black and white compact flash >> cards. So people are going to tend to see in color. >> >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> mark at rabinergroup.com >> Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb >> >> >> >> >>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:01:02 -0800 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] What are the most important aspects of a >> photographic >>> image? >>> >>> >>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:39 AM, George Lottermoser wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>> >>>>> or to put it another way.... if it depends on color to make its impact, >>>>> then it's largely lost, >>>> >>>> It really seems that we're slicing this subject much too thin; >>>> and expressing very personal preferences >>> >>> >>> I don't think this is true George....clearly color should be used, "if >> it's >>> about color" but "if the image depends on color (only) to make its >> impact, >>> then it's largely lost"... >>> >>> >>> is this not basically correct? If it's not correct, why? >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>>> rather than useful pointers. >>>> >>>> Fine color photographs will use color extremely well >>>> as a major and important element. >>>> Ric, Kyle and others demonstrates this on a weekly basis. >>>> >>>> In other cases - yes - color can seem to get in the way >>>> of what may be an otherwise strong graphic image. >>>> >>>> Bottom line: >>>> the photographer must speak substantively >>>> and in a style appropriate to their own vision. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> George Lottermoser >>>> george at imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous > replies in your msgs. ] > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information