Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I always thought that a great strategy for Leica would be to continue to develop the M8 crop factor. A bit like both Canon and Nikon have both full frame and crop format cameras. The lens can be used on either camera and if they make some minor fixing of the M8 sensor (e.g. eliminate the IR problem) and sell the package for $4000 or so, they should generate even more sales. Of course this won't make sense until the M9 supply meets and exceeds the demand. This two tiered pricing would make sense even when the M10 replaces the M9. X series - entry level M8 series - mid level M9/M10 series - top level S2 - stratospheric level On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > I think that you are safe from seeing an adapter to fit R to S. I'm not so > sure that many R lens owners regard spending 25 thousand or whatever as a > solution to use those lenses anyway! > > Back on the difficulties with producing a digital M can you imagine what > the > camera would have cost in the earlier days of dSLR's? I think that they > were > tellling the truth at the time with the then current sensor > technology/costs. > > This is historically interesting from Stefan Daniel (pre-M8 actual release) > > .........Beyond that the digital M will have a focal length crop factor of > 1.33. This technical constraint is necessary because our top priority is to > deliver the utmost picture quality. Given the optical reality of M lenses > and today's state of sensor technology, the ideal solution for our > customers, a full-format sensor, would not live up to our high standards. > This is particularly true for aspects such as vignetting and sharpness from > image centre to corner. In this respect we've already reduced the thickness > of the cover glass and filters located before the sensor to an absolute > minimum so that laterally impacting light rays do not cause unwanted > calculations. The radius of the micro lenses and their positioning before > the sensor was designed in such a way that they channel as much light onto > the pixel as possible. These measures and others ensure the picture quality > that one has come to expect from the M system. The crop factor was selected > so that the same picture angles are maintained - all one has to do is take > a > different lens: a 21mm turns intoa 28mm, a 28 into a 35. Having considered > our options we are convinced that this is the best solution, in terms of > attainable picture quality and - since the costs of a sensor increase > exponentially to their size - in terms of the price of a digital M.... > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 25 January 2011 17:36, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The worst thing would be if all they can come up with is an adaptor > > for the S2. I know Leica have said they won't, but they also said > > they couldn't make a digital M, then a full-frame digital M . . . and > > so many other things. Lucky I like their cameras and lenses a lot. > > > > Marty > > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > wrote: > > > The worst thing could happen they actually do come out with an R10. The > > we > > > have to face the fact that we don't have nine grand USD. Just like many > > of > > > us had to face the fact that we don't have the seven grand for an M9. > We > > > have to be careful what we wish for. Make sure we also wish not just > for > > an > > > M9 or R10 but the money to get one us to buy one too. > > > Doesn't do me any good with all the other nice photographers shooting > > with > > > an M9. I need to have one. > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > Photography > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > mark at rabinergroup.com > > > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:39 +0100 > > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video > > >> > > >> > > >> Le 25 janv. 11 ? 04:13, Sonny Carter a ?crit : > > >> > > >>> Give it up; we don't need no R10. > > >> > > >> Give me a dream though ;-) > > >> Marylin, Elvis, and the man on the moon were, > > >> and still remain for some. > > >> > > >> Amicalement > > >> Philippe > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]