Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, it is TRUE that in the 1990s a digital M is impossible. An airplane is impossible in 1800s too. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: > I was joking about the S2 Geoff. Stefan should quit and let you sell > the cool aid, er, I mean advertise Leica. > > A lot was said before Stefan became the official spokesperson for the > company. I was told twice to my face that a digital M was impossible > in the mid 1990s. > > Marty > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > wrote: > > I think that you are safe from seeing an adapter to fit R to S. I'm not > so > > sure that many R lens owners regard spending 25 thousand or whatever as a > > solution to use those lenses anyway! > > > > Back on the difficulties with producing a digital M can you imagine what > the > > camera would have cost in the earlier days of dSLR's? I think that they > were > > tellling the truth at the time with the then current sensor > > technology/costs. > > > > This is historically interesting from Stefan Daniel (pre-M8 actual > release) > > > > .........Beyond that the digital M will have a focal length crop factor > of > > 1.33. This technical constraint is necessary because our top priority is > to > > deliver the utmost picture quality. Given the optical reality of M lenses > > and today's state of sensor technology, the ideal solution for our > > customers, a full-format sensor, would not live up to our high standards. > > This is particularly true for aspects such as vignetting and sharpness > from > > image centre to corner. In this respect we've already reduced the > thickness > > of the cover glass and filters located before the sensor to an absolute > > minimum so that laterally impacting light rays do not cause unwanted > > calculations. The radius of the micro lenses and their positioning before > > the sensor was designed in such a way that they channel as much light > onto > > the pixel as possible. These measures and others ensure the picture > quality > > that one has come to expect from the M system. The crop factor was > selected > > so that the same picture angles are maintained - all one has to do is > take a > > different lens: a 21mm turns intoa 28mm, a 28 into a 35. Having > considered > > our options we are convinced that this is the best solution, in terms of > > attainable picture quality and - since the costs of a sensor increase > > exponentially to their size - in terms of the price of a digital M.... > > Cheers > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > On 25 January 2011 17:36, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The worst thing would be if all they can come up with is an adaptor > >> for the S2. I know Leica have said they won't, but they also said > >> they couldn't make a digital M, then a full-frame digital M . . . and > >> so many other things. Lucky I like their cameras and lenses a lot. > >> > >> Marty > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > >> wrote: > >> > The worst thing could happen they actually do come out with an R10. > The > >> we > >> > have to face the fact that we don't have nine grand USD. Just like > many > >> of > >> > us had to face the fact that we don't have the seven grand for an M9. > We > >> > have to be careful what we wish for. Make sure we also wish not just > for > >> an > >> > M9 or R10 but the money to get one us to buy one too. > >> > Doesn't do me any good with all the other nice photographers shooting > >> with > >> > an M9. I need to have one. > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------------- > >> > Mark William Rabiner > >> > Photography > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >> > mark at rabinergroup.com > >> > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > >> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:39 +0100 > >> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Le 25 janv. 11 ? 04:13, Sonny Carter a ?crit : > >> >> > >> >>> Give it up; we don't need no R10. > >> >> > >> >> Give me a dream though ;-) > >> >> Marylin, Elvis, and the man on the moon were, > >> >> and still remain for some. > >> >> > >> >> Amicalement > >> >> Philippe > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]