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Subject: [Leica] WAS : Barcelona in color - Lluis
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:03:47 +0200
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Le 16 avr. 11 ? 02:38, Lluis Ripoll a ?crit :

>
> Philippe,
>
> This reminds me the movie "Un homme et une femme", this sequence has  
> aways emoved me, still today...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqxQGI3BTXs
>

Oh yes Lluis, "chabadabada" is in the language now ;-)
I didn't remember he'd parked his car in front of the photog's shop ;-)
BTW Trintignant's father raced Le Mans, and was my uncle's driving  
instructor, scary. The Mustang is not innocent there. The son lost his  
daughter in a tragedy a couple of years ago. Poor chap.

> I was impressed at my 24 years with this film, these kind of films  
> has influenced and open the people to the world, to enjoy the life,  
> I think the same year I was read some books of Albert Camus, I  
> remember "L'?t?" it was an excellent book on this sense too. After  
> this... it was the days of the beach, flirts, and nice stories that  
> Brassens would explain much better than me.
>
Times of innocence :-)
Well remembered here too.
As to Camus, one of the BIG shocks in my life; together with St Ex,  
Proust and Brassens of course. I was asking PhD students yesterday,  
which French singer they would recommend to a new student who comes  
from Brazil; the answer? Brassens. I said this is your parents'  
choice; they said no, we really think he is one of the best, we love  
the lyrics :-)

Bon weekend.
Philippe


> Amiti?s
> Lluis
>
>
> El 15/04/2011, a las 13:10, philippe.amard escribi?:
>
>> Beautifully balanced composition and tones - it sings!
>>
>> In between Fred Astair and a crossbreed of
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uopjMuYY3F8
>> and
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JS4JMY0JWM
>>
>> Rain sometimes helps a photog,
>> in that respect I should feel a happy camper ;-)
>>
>> Great great photo Nathan
>>
>> Amiti?s
>> Philippe
>>
>> Le 15 avr. 11 ? 09:02, Nathan Wajsman a ?crit :
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ted,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you are thinking about this one, from Seville in 2003  
>>> or 2004?
>>>
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/night/content/L2004_14_12_large.html
>>>
>>> That was one of my most-commented-upon pictures ever.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:43 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> 
>>>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lawrence Zeitlin offered
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Barcelona in color
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>> Not trolling at all. I was just curious. Many of the pictures  
>>>>> that you post
>>>>> in and around Alicante are about people too, yet you usually  
>>>>> shoot in color.<<<,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>> That may be true, however some of Nathan's more spectacular  
>>>> photographs over the years have been people in B&W! There is one  
>>>> I recall from several years ago at night with a few people on the  
>>>> street. I believe Madrid? Barcelona? Or some other location prior  
>>>> to his moving to Alicante? It was most eye catching simply  
>>>> because it was in  B&W!
>>>>
>>>>> I reject Dr. Ted's pat aphorism that when you photograph people  
>>>>> in color,
>>>>> you photograph their clothes but when you shoot B&W you  
>>>>> photograph their
>>>>> soul. <<<
>>>>
>>>> Be my guest and reject all you like my friend. :-) However let me  
>>>> give an example.:-) True incident in the UK several years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Two photographers with a portrait studio decided they'd only  
>>>> shoot B&W portraits. They completely renovated the studio front  
>>>> windows, re-opening as a B&W portraits only! In the front exhibit  
>>>> space they placed beautiful B&W portrait prints and advertised  
>>>> they only did their portraits in B&W.
>>>>
>>>> Clients who insisted on colour were offered B&W or the doorway!  
>>>> One would think them a bit looney given this was the beginning of  
>>>> a new operation and one would surely want every dollar possible.
>>>>
>>>> However? Given it being a very fine portrait studio originally  
>>>> with a great number of clients prior to the change over. Within  
>>>> the first three months they tripled the gross income shooting  
>>>> only B&W! Whatever it is about B&W drew a wonderful new clientele.
>>>>
>>>> Actually the difference is the "content" creates which is greater  
>>>> in many cases.
>>>>
>>>> Disasters generally look worse in B&W simply because the content  
>>>> is usually violent and death! Of course not in every case. What  
>>>> is the B&W photograph that comes to mind from Vietnam? I have two  
>>>> without question. Eddie Adams photo of the police officer  
>>>> shooting the VC through the head and the young girl running away  
>>>> from the Napalm with her clothes and body burnt. Vivid B&W both!  
>>>> And colour wouldn't have added anything!
>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine Matthew Brady's problem trying to photograph the US  
>>>>>> Civil war in color using the wet collodion process.<<
>>>>
>>>> I doubt they'd be any better! As most are "classic content"  
>>>> images to start with, so I doubt colour would've improved them at  
>>>> all.  Regardless of the technical situation. Along those lines if  
>>>> we compare the dramatic B&W movies of the past, quite often these  
>>>> days we see with "colour added." Quite frankly they look quite  
>>>> horrid as the colour adds absolutely nothing, but almost destroys  
>>>> the craftsmanship of the lighting people and camera angles .
>>>>
>>>> Colour can in many cases, be a complete distraction from the  
>>>> content. As I understand photography, it's the content that is  
>>>> the most important part of the photograph.  That is unless one is  
>>>> dabbling strictly in colour for colour sake.
>>>>
>>>> So Larry mon ami it's basically "to each his own." I shoot colour  
>>>> when the assignment is to be shot in colour and B&W when the  
>>>> assignment is for B&W re-production. I would offer, of the  
>>>> 100,000 images in the National Gallery of Canada collection they  
>>>> are all B&W documentary images. The 280,000 images in the  
>>>> National Archives of Canada collection? It's probably 75% B&W,  
>>>> 25% colour. Again simply because of the assignment and whether  
>>>> magazine assignments, travel or tourism or whether the client  
>>>> asked specifically to shoot in whatever medium.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose if you owned one of my published medical books, "This  
>>>> is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler" "Doctor's Work" or  
>>>> "Women in Medicine. A celebration of their Work."  You might have  
>>>> a better understanding what I mean: "When you photograph people  
>>>> in colour, you photograph their clothes. But when you photograph  
>>>> people in B&W, you photograph their souls!"
>>>>
>>>> And as far as digital? Quite often I use my Digilux 2 set to  
>>>> shoot B&W and I get some very interesting B&W images. Actually  
>>>> the really cool thing is, looking through the viewfinder at a B&W  
>>>> world and "Click!" A B&W image right out of the camera! :-)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>>>
>>>>
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