Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm in! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov at charter.net>wrote: > I just found out that next year, 2012, 120 film will be 100 years old. > Anyone willing to do a celebratory project to commemorate the milestone? > S.d. > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza at yahoo.com.ar> > > Date: May 4, 2011 1:53:25 AM PDT > > To: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [rolleiusers] Re: Care & feeding of '29 Original > > Reply-To: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com > > > > Kirk: > > 120 film was available from 1912 and the Rolleiflex was designed in 1928, > it could be made to use 120 film but Heidecke wanted to keep the camera as > compact and small as posssible and then he chose the 117 film (B1-6). The > Rolleiflex was a market successs and hardly the firsts users got it they > asked the factory about to adapt it to use longer film; F&H found a way to > retrofit the camera for 620 film spools use with 12 frames. > > > > According the explanation in Claus Prochnow's Report 1, the 620 spools > larger flanges made contact with the upper spool chamber and then it had to > be enlarged accordingly, the lower spool was housed in a cage and projected > slightly and then the camera back received two spherical cuts. The camera > exterior was kept original without changes. > > > > The camera could also be adapted for 120 film at factory, but it required > major changes with modifications even for the camera exterior (i.e. a > additional spool knob and a new wider transport knob with a groove) and the > changes for the camera inside were significant too. > > While the adaptation for 620 film looks pretty simple for a technician > wanting to do the task, the adaptation for 120 film looks more complex > requiring special parts, 120 spools had slight variants at the time and the > adaptation needed to consider these variants. > > > > It was from January 1932 with the first Rolleiflex Standard model that > the Rolleiflex cameras were made to use 120 film from factory. The 117 film > was discontinued in 1949, F&H decision to adopt the 120 film size had > nothing to do with the 117 film availability, the Rolleiflex users wanted a > longer film. > > > > Carlos > > > > PS:If you have the 620 spools, it's pretty easy to respool 120 film, the > only difference 120-620 is the spool, film size is the same. > > > > --- El mi? 4-may-11, Kirk Thompson <thompsonkirk at hotmail.com> > > escribi?: > > > > > De: Kirk Thompson <thompsonkirk at hotmail.com> > > > Asunto: [rolleiusers] Re: Care & feeding of '29 Original > > > Para: rolleiusers at yahoogroups.com > > > Fecha: mi?rcoles, 4 de mayo de 2011, 1:03 > > > Thanks, Richard, for having a go at > > > it, but unfortunately those aren't solutions (if there are > > > any). > > > > > > 1. No way 120, it's too fat. The early Rolleis used 117 > > > film. Phillips explains that in 1929 it was the only > > > size that had the frame numbers printed in the right place > > > on the backing paper. 117 was 6 cm wide but had a thin > > > spindle (making a thinner roll), small flanges, and > > > different holes in the ends of the spools. > > > > > > When 117 was discontinued, many of the original Rolleis > > > were converted to 620 film (which is still available from > > > B&H). 620 has a skinny spindle and small flanges like > > > 117, but it required a modification of the cameras: a > > > different-sized left bump and right key to engage the > > > take-up spool. These are the conversion parts I have some > > > small hope of finding, if anyone knows of an old Rollei > > > burial site where such things can be found. > > > > > > 2. Years of experience have proved that klutzes like me do > > > not work on their own cameras. So I still want to know if > > > there's a classic camera repairman who retains old parts and > > > skills. (Fleenor and Krikor don't work on these.) > > > > > > Kirk > > > > __._,_.___ > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > > Messages in this topic (5) > > RECENT ACTIVITY: > > Visit Your Group > > MARKETPLACE > > Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit > the Fibromyalgia Zone today! > > > > Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - > Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > > . > > > > __,_._,___ > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]