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Subject: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:03:24 -0800
References: <CAF8hL-HzJtqvN4NcSDZm3OWC4muPktx+hqXYVrm4NxFjfOeDoA@mail.gmail.com> <87E9ACCC-43A1-49B9-8DEE-9BEF85802742@gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E93DEAFC4E@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <CA+=0raDXigWgWoiO3=o_Ca9yytFuC8bZ=4n=Le83aBeBXSkLYQ@mail.gmail.com> <000001cce6e4$8e4b1900$aae14b00$@chiaroscuro.co.nz> <027a01cce6e9$a10ca270$e325e750$@earthlink.net> <AB84C0F1-CF26-4C41-98A7-544CB8D1EA3E@shaw.ca> <028f01cce6ed$1483a070$3d8ae150$@earthlink.net> <CAAsXt4Ob14NwyPU0fDTV9ONe3Un+5m1cNC9SeaCVUOL5ZavmDA@mail.gmail.com> <20AA8077-EF01-4F23-872D-297392EACD21@gmail.com> <CAAsXt4NrfE0uzokzBxjbGih7bEwEwbUGHUyikNVmNWVm-cJsoA@mail.gmail.com> <4D19A03A-99A0-4B76-AFE3-75959F532048@gmail.com>

You would ask...
Rolling NJ deadline; supposedly in 2 weeks. That was after they said 3
weeks 3 weeks ago... Bought a used 35'cron ASPH that's there too undergoing
the same operation (though not being matched)...
grrrr

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Robert Adler wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, it's one of the least expensive I've seen! And it's
> > getting CLA'd in NJ, coded and calibrated to the M9 at no cost to me. So
> it
> > was IMO, the price that had to be paid, albeit at the lower end of
> today's
> > market.
> >
> > OK. Kimono closed; you can open your eyes now!
> > Bob
>
>
> one questioin Bob....
>
> when ?
>
> Steve
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> > gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:37 PM, Robert Adler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well I'll open my Kimono here.
> >>
> >>
> >> oh my Bob, let's see, do I remember how to blush?
> >>
> >>> I just bought a use Nocti; last generation before the 0.95. It's being
> >>> coded and matched to an M9 in NJ. I paid $6,500. There. I said it. I
> feel
> >>> better already!
> >>
> >> ouch, I should have hung onto both Noctilux I used to own!
> >>
> >>> I don't think I would have been willing to fork over $2,300 less for a
> >>> product with unknown performance and from a manufacturer without a long
> >>> history of quality. If after a year I hear that it's a better lens than
> >> the
> >>> Nocti I bought, fine. I'll kick myself around the block a few times
> while
> >>> looking at the images caught over that year.
> >>> But for quality of lens, I'll talk Leica and put my money where my
> mouth
> >> is.
> >>>
> >>> And as far as Erwin Putz, he's no god, but he does know lens
> measurement
> >>> and has the historical perspective and experience to compare. So I do
> >> trust
> >>> his measurements and his opinions drawn from them to a degree. After
> that
> >>> it's up to the photographer.
> >>>
> >>> The only new lens I bought was the new 21/3.4, in large part based on
> >>> Erwin's enthusiasm but also based on need (I don't tend to that wide in
> >> low
> >>> light), size (an incredibly compact 21) and cost (relative to the 1.4).
> >>>
> >>> So all things being pretty equal (this lens vs the Noctilux) I'll give
> >>> Leica a big benefit of doubt on their lens quality.
> >>> Just my opinion, since I have nothing else to do until my kit
> arrives...
> >>> :'-(
> >>
> >> soon...you'll love it , I know you will, can't wait to see the
> results...
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
> >>> earthlink.net
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I stand somewhat corrected......
> >>>>
> >>>> What I should have said is:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......even with
> >> RF
> >>>> Coupling.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep in mind the cheapest CV lens has this coupling, and it is the
> 21/4
> >> P
> >>>> Color Skopar M mount at $419 with lens elements......
> >>>> Hard to justify a $3K up lift in cost because of RF coupling.
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>> Red735i at earthlink.net
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
> >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On 
> >>>> Behalf
> Of
> >>>> John
> >>>> Collier
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:27 PM
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
> >>>>
> >>>> A 4/3 mount wouldn't require coupling to the rangefinder. I would
> assume
> >>>> that the M mount version is coupled.
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2012-02-08, at 10:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bob Adler
> >>> Palo Alto, CA
> >>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Leica Users Group.
> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob Adler
> > Palo Alto, CA
> > http://www.rgaphoto.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


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