Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]notably lenses, there is not much around that can resolve 40 meg and the new ones coming out r priced around 5k. it is not a full system, i think it was more of an experiment. all depends on ricoh now. kill it or make a camera system. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > Chris, this is why I always buy used cars. I pay less than a new car and > never bitch about the various Toyota we own. > > But seriously, why is Pentax 645D a lesser cameras? All I hear is "Leica S2 > or Hasselblad is better because they are more expensive." > > How about the Pentax has water sealing? (so does the S2...) > > How about the Pentax handles pretty nicely? > > How about the Pentax has 40 MP? > > How about someone no less than Salgado shot years with a 645? > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Chris Crawford < > chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com > > wrote: > > > In 2006, my grandmother bought a new car. She had a 1987 Ford Escort that > > she had bought new. She has money but is tightfisted, so when she bought > > the Escort, she went to the local Ford dealer and said she wanted the > > cheapest new car on the lot. Then she paid cash for it. > > > > She hated that Escort the entire time she had it. It was a little tin-can > > shitbox that rode rough, had no engine power, was claustrophobically > small > > inside, and God help you if you get in a wreck with someone driving a big > > car! She bitched about that Escort the whole time she had it, and when > she > > replaced it in 2006, she swore she was going to buy a nicer car. > > > > She didn't want to spend too much though. She looked at the Ford Focus, > > the successor to the Escort and a better built car, though still a crappy > > econo-tincan, and she looked at a Taurus, a nice midsize car. The Taurus > > was $3000 more than the Focus. That was just $3000 too much and the old > > cheapskate bought the Focus, once again paying the full cost of the > > brand-new car in cash. > > > > My grandma has done nothing but BITCH incessantly to everyone who will > > listen about what a piece of shit her car is, and how much she hates it > > because its too small, rides rough, has no power, and she feels unsafe in > > it. Sound familiar? Yeah, same complaints she had about her last new car, > > the 87 Escort. > > > > Seriously, if you're already spending $10+ thousand, a couple thousand > > more for a better camera is worth it. > > > > > > Lesson: Spend the money and get the right camera. > > > > -- > > Chris Crawford > > Fine Art Photography > > Fort Wayne, Indiana > > 260-437-8990 > > > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > > > > > On 3/4/12 4:28 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote: > > > > >That way of thinking leads to madness! > > > > > >$13K for H4D-31, but hey > > >$13K for a P40+, and "only" $5K more to get an Alpa and a good lens! > > >But hey, > > >$18K, may as well pay another $4K for the S2 body and what's another $4K > > >for a lens? > > > > > >But wait... $26K? You can get a P65+ and another $5K for an Alpa with a > > >good lens! > > >$31K? Chump change. Now you can get a S2P setup! > > > > > >Or wait, $31K + $8K gets you the ULTIMATE IQ180. Who doesn't want THAT? > > >Another $15K gets you the ultimate ultimate Alpa with 3 lens setup. > > > > > >So now we are looking at $52K. > > > > > >All because $13K is just $2K more than $11K. > > > > > >AND NOT a single photo has been taken. > > > > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > > > > > >> If I was going to spend $11K on a digital MF camera I would spend > > >>another > > >> $2k and get the Hasselblad H4D-31. > > >> > > >> Gene > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > > >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 11:26:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D > > >> > > >> The genesis of the camera seems to be that Pentax finally finished it > so > > >> that it can make the company more appealing to Hoya, but then it got > > >>wildly > > >> popular (well, wildly is a relative term in medium format world). Now > > >> another owner later, they are certainly taking their time releasing > new > > >> lens. There is one wide lens already: 25mm which is even wider than > the > > >>new > > >> Leica S2 35mm but one will have to make do with the older 645 or 6x7 > > >>lens > > >> in the mean time. The performance varies so you may have to try > several > > >> lens to get one that performs well, but they are dirt cheap though, > > >> relatively speaking. > > >> > > >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:12 PM, John McMaster <john at > > >> chiaroscuro.co.nz > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > Pentax don't seem to be rushing out new/wider lenses for it, not > sure > > >> > (either way) of the quality of the lenses from the film days. > > >> > > > >> > john > > >> > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > If I can finagled $11K, I'd buy the Pentax 645D in a heartbeat. \ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Leica Users Group. > > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leica Users Group. > > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad