Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Chris, this is why I always buy used cars. I pay less than a new car and never bitch about the various Toyota we own. But seriously, why is Pentax 645D a lesser cameras? All I hear is "Leica S2 or Hasselblad is better because they are more expensive." How about the Pentax has water sealing? (so does the S2...) How about the Pentax handles pretty nicely? How about the Pentax has 40 MP? How about someone no less than Salgado shot years with a 645? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com > wrote: > In 2006, my grandmother bought a new car. She had a 1987 Ford Escort that > she had bought new. She has money but is tightfisted, so when she bought > the Escort, she went to the local Ford dealer and said she wanted the > cheapest new car on the lot. Then she paid cash for it. > > She hated that Escort the entire time she had it. It was a little tin-can > shitbox that rode rough, had no engine power, was claustrophobically small > inside, and God help you if you get in a wreck with someone driving a big > car! She bitched about that Escort the whole time she had it, and when she > replaced it in 2006, she swore she was going to buy a nicer car. > > She didn't want to spend too much though. She looked at the Ford Focus, > the successor to the Escort and a better built car, though still a crappy > econo-tincan, and she looked at a Taurus, a nice midsize car. The Taurus > was $3000 more than the Focus. That was just $3000 too much and the old > cheapskate bought the Focus, once again paying the full cost of the > brand-new car in cash. > > My grandma has done nothing but BITCH incessantly to everyone who will > listen about what a piece of shit her car is, and how much she hates it > because its too small, rides rough, has no power, and she feels unsafe in > it. Sound familiar? Yeah, same complaints she had about her last new car, > the 87 Escort. > > Seriously, if you're already spending $10+ thousand, a couple thousand > more for a better camera is worth it. > > > Lesson: Spend the money and get the right camera. > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-437-8990 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > On 3/4/12 4:28 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote: > > >That way of thinking leads to madness! > > > >$13K for H4D-31, but hey > >$13K for a P40+, and "only" $5K more to get an Alpa and a good lens! > >But hey, > >$18K, may as well pay another $4K for the S2 body and what's another $4K > >for a lens? > > > >But wait... $26K? You can get a P65+ and another $5K for an Alpa with a > >good lens! > >$31K? Chump change. Now you can get a S2P setup! > > > >Or wait, $31K + $8K gets you the ULTIMATE IQ180. Who doesn't want THAT? > >Another $15K gets you the ultimate ultimate Alpa with 3 lens setup. > > > >So now we are looking at $52K. > > > >All because $13K is just $2K more than $11K. > > > >AND NOT a single photo has been taken. > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:10 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > > > >> If I was going to spend $11K on a digital MF camera I would spend > >>another > >> $2k and get the Hasselblad H4D-31. > >> > >> Gene > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 11:26:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D > >> > >> The genesis of the camera seems to be that Pentax finally finished it so > >> that it can make the company more appealing to Hoya, but then it got > >>wildly > >> popular (well, wildly is a relative term in medium format world). Now > >> another owner later, they are certainly taking their time releasing new > >> lens. There is one wide lens already: 25mm which is even wider than the > >>new > >> Leica S2 35mm but one will have to make do with the older 645 or 6x7 > >>lens > >> in the mean time. The performance varies so you may have to try several > >> lens to get one that performs well, but they are dirt cheap though, > >> relatively speaking. > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:12 PM, John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > Pentax don't seem to be rushing out new/wider lenses for it, not sure > >> > (either way) of the quality of the lenses from the film days. > >> > > >> > john > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > > >> > > >> > If I can finagled $11K, I'd buy the Pentax 645D in a heartbeat. \ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>